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Subject: Re: Whats the expert opinion?

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 09:59:16 03/10/00

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On March 10, 2000 at 11:50:42, Soren Riis wrote:

>I am a mathematician on IM level who only have
>done armature work (like testing evaluation
>functions etc) in chess programming.
>
>I would like to hear the expert opinion on the
>following questions:
>
>It is well known that programs which have the same
>strength at one time control, might have different
>strengths at different time controls. Or equivalently
>that two programs relative strength might depend on
>the speed of the hardware.
>
>Q1: What is factors contribute to this?

As a mathematician, if you have any computer programming experience, then you
are surely aware of O(f(n)) notation.  If a program has a superior algorithm,
then even if it is a bad implementation, at *some* point, it will dominate a
program with an inferior algorithm.  This explains why a program might be bad at
blitz and good at longer time controls.

>Humans players, when compared to programs plays relatively
>better with long time controls. While a program increase
>its strength by typically 70 rating points when the speed is
>doubled, the human (for fast time controls like 5 min) rather
>seem to gain 200 rating points when the speed, so to speak, is
>doubled (i.e. when the available time is doubled).
>This suggest that with slow speed computers also gain much more
>than 70 rating points. Is this correct?

It's a testable hypothesis, but I won't speculate without data.

>Q2: Does very knowledge strong program gain more playing strength
>relative to less knowledge strong programs (on slow processors)?

This is "a great debate" with proponents on both sides.  I don't think we know
the answer.

>On fast processors knowledge is sometimes even a disadvantage.
>
>Q3: How does knowledge fare as a function of speed?

Define "knowledge"

>The questions are a bit vague, but I would like to hear the
>expert opinions. Any thoughts?

I'm not an expert, but I volunteer my thoughts anyway.



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