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Subject: Re: How to manage extensions?

Author: Jan Pernicka

Date: 05:05:13 03/22/00

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On March 22, 2000 at 07:12:59, Inmann Werner wrote:

>On March 22, 2000 at 06:30:58, Jan Pernicka wrote:
>
>
>I use up to 9 ext in one branch. If you have deep mate threats with much check,
>it is helpful.
>

   OK - but I think it slows speed (i.e: completing searching) too much...
       - Do you distinct "good" and "bad" checks ?!
   That number - 9 extens. - do you use it for all (which?) types of extensions?
   this questions(better say-answers) are crucial in making "good" program.
   Also interesting is (in average) ratio: r = a/b , where:
      b - #nodes visited when no extension is used
      a - #nodes visited (in the same position as in a) ) with extensions
     Note: in this case I include quiescence search also into b because
           I think (is it true?) that other extensions have nothing common with
           quiescence search - i.e.:when reaching the horizon (depth==0), they
           in case a) use the same quiescence search as in case b)... (?)

   I suppose that ratio r is normally around 3 or 4 - is it true or not?
     (But in your case it can sometimes be much, much more - seems...?!)

>
>Reasons of win:
>3)the engine makes a king side attack, not seeing anything tactically, but
>"liking" positionally the attack. It gives pressure until it sees something
>tactically.(this is tricky, cause often, if the attack fails, you are lost)
>(Comet? Hossa)

   This seems to me not too safe...

>4)Both engines do not know really what they do, but at one time, one stands
>clearly better and wins. (Both engines give 0.00 or so and move around)

    It would be interesting to know how ofter this (point 4) ) happens...

>
>This also is a ranking IMHO

  Excuse me, what IMHO means ( i am not too strong in abbr. :) )



  So - let's summarize the problem:
      how to make extension "good-and-safe-working"?
       (i.e: better than exhaustive searching with relatively low time costs)





 Thank you for useful information.

            Jan






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