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Subject: Re: What has happened with Crafty?

Author: Jason Williamson

Date: 01:02:20 03/25/00

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On March 24, 2000 at 22:36:22, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On March 24, 2000 at 18:51:27, Bertil Eklund wrote:
>
>>
>>I have followed Crafty for some years now even if Crafty has been a good program
>>it has always been a bit after "the best professionals" but now from version
>>17.x (not 17.01 that in some games played suicidal-chess according
>>king-security, castling right in to an ongoing attack against its king)
>>I think the latest versions is on "par" with a lot of the better commercial
>>programs. I want to know what is the difference between Crafty from today and
>>the earlier versions? What is the reasons for the improved play? I understand
>>that Crafty plays better with the tuned books from Chessbase-engines but this is
>>only a little part of Craftys better play. Craftys play with Tablebases is
>>excellent, but I guess it must be a lot of other improvements as well.
>
>The main difference between "this" crafty and "old" crafty versions is
>simply testing.  This version was really targeted to be 'solid' for the
>ICC tournament.  Other versions _always_ have new ideas that are sometimes
>good, sometimes bad.  I don't know how the current version stacks up against
>commercial program on equal hardware, but in the past, the general testing
>approach of others was to compare a released version of a commercial program
>vs one of the many experimental versions of Crafty.  With the expected results.
>
>It is easy to judge a book by the cover.  But it is often wrong...
>
>Crafty may well still get smashed by the commercial programs on equal
>hardware.  But on my quad, it is _very_ dangerous when it is playing
>solidly rather than in a test mode...
>

On my dual Celeron, runing with SMP off, Crafty is *almost* on par with Fritz,
Junior, Shredder, etc.  Can't really use the SMP, since then its not equal
hardware :)

Note that this is using the Chessbase version of Crafty-17.07.  The non
Chessbase version tend to do a little worse, but I suspect thats just the fritz
problems cropping up.


>
>>
>>This is written before I know the results from our testings, but I think Craftys
>>results are going to surprise many people. I have been busy with the excellent
>>program Shredder4.
>>
>>Remember also that Crafty dislikes Amd K6-2, a K6-2 450 is about equal to a
>>Pentium 333(for Crafty). The difference is about 30-35 %clockwise.



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