Author: blass uri
Date: 01:31:36 04/05/00
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On April 04, 2000 at 16:01:27, Roger wrote: >On April 04, 2000 at 00:00:41, KarinsDad wrote: > >>It occurs to me that the example that Jeremiah gave us in that thread could >>still result in a loss for the KNP side of KNNPKNP. For example (and I did not >>check this with tablebases, I am making an illustration here and hopefully, I >>set it up correctly): >> >>[D]8/n1PK3p/k6N/8/6N1/8/8/8 w - - >> >>Now, even though this may result in a mate for white after c8(Q)+, it may take >>more than 50 moves to do it. However, the idea is that the knight at h6 could >>blockade the pawn until about move 40 or so, then it could come attack the king, >>then when the pawn is pushed, it could go back and blockade again for a moment. >>The 50 move counter would be reset since the pawn was pushed and then the knight >>could come back to attack the king again. >> >>Now, this probably does not work for this particular example. I just put it here >>to illustrate the idea. >> >>But it seems to me that the BEST play would take into account the 50 move rule >>COMBINED WITH the shortest mate, even if that takes longer due to reseting the >>50 move rule counter. >> >>If there are examples of this occuring within the tablebases (and I do not know >>that for a fact since I do not have them), it would appear that the tablebases >>are in reality a good tool, but a partially flawed tool (since it would be >>extremely difficult for a program to determine that it is time to attack the >>king with the knight, and oops, it is time to head back and blockade the pawn >>again). >> >>KarinsDad :) > > >I would support a twenty move rule. If you can't accumulate enough of an >advantage that you can't win under a twenty move rule, then my opinion is that >the game should be judged a draw, and that it's your own fault for allowing such >a position. > >This probably would not eliminate the situation described, but it could make >them less frequent. > >That would also make tablebases smaller. Maybe much smaller. I would definitely >be in favor of that :) > >Raj Your rules will do chess a boring game and there will be more draws. Uri
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