Author: Christopher R. Dorr
Date: 09:53:14 04/12/00
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Godlike? Hardly. I strongly doubt that Kaspy would have much of a mental block against a PC program. And it wouldn't be blitz. I've played enough simuls to know that time isn't as important as one would think it would be. It wouldn't be as fast as you'd think; Kaspy would knock out the first ten moves instantly, leaving himself a very manageable 30/2. The advantage that a player like Kaspy has isn't his calculating ability; DeGroot showed that masters usually 'see' the correct move early on in the evaluation process, and spend the rest of their time confirming it. In most of my games against USCF 1800-1900 types (a rating differential similar to that of Kaspy vs. a PC program on a good computer), I was able to spot and react to an error almost instantly. I've played GM's (also a similar rating differential), and they've been able to spot and react to my errors in a similar way. Additionally, computers *do* play similar chess, even programs with different 'styles'. I actually think that Kaspy would have an easier time preparing for this than he would a 32 game simul against 2500-strength human GM's (which I also think he would win). Overall, I'd still give the edge to Kaspy at 18-14 or so. It would be a fascinating thing to watch. On April 12, 2000 at 11:43:30, Jason Williamson wrote: >Sure they are middle of the range GM's but they have a few advantages that would >make them god like in a simul situation. No fatigue, time management. I mean, >Kasparov would basicly play a blitz game against them, where they have 2 hours >to think! And it has been proven that computers are the best period at blitz. >Kasparov would lose also due to his mental block against computers :) > >and would he lose! It would be a disater for him, maybe +10 -20 =2 > >On April 12, 2000 at 08:59:21, Christopher R. Dorr wrote: > >>I disagree, >> >>Kasparov has taken on teams of several GM's at once before, and won handily. I >>believe it was the German National team two or three years ago (Somebody please >>correct me if I'm wrong). If Today's programs are GMs at 40/2 (which I believe >>to be the case, but which has not been conclusively proven yet), then they are >>fairly average GMs, i.e. 2500-2550 FIDE. I would bet that Kasparov could defeat >>32 FIDE 2500 GM's in a simul. Probably not with a lopsided score, but still >>probably something in the neighborhood of 18-14. I'm about USCF 2200, and >>believe that I could defeat a team of 1850s/1900s with a similar score, and that >>is a similar rating differential. Additionally, I think it would be even easier >>for Kaspy against the comps, as even the best micros still have identifiable and >>exploitable weaknesses, and Kaspy has a great deal of experience against comps. >>Against today's comps, I'd venture a score of perhaps 20-12 in favor of Kaspy. >> >>Chris >> >> >> >>On April 12, 2000 at 04:46:37, stuart taylor wrote: >> >>>On April 12, 2000 at 03:43:59, Michael Cummings wrote: >>> >>>>On April 12, 2000 at 03:27:03, Jouni Uski wrote: >>>> >>>>>... Garry Kasparov played simultan against 32 chess programs with score >>>>>+32,=0,-0 in 1985? Really unbelievable! Any quesses how will same kind of >>>>>match end today. Here's my: +15,=14,-3. >>>>> >>>>>JOuni >>>> >>>>Do you know what were the programs, and cosidering how many years ago, its not >>>>such a surprise. >>>> >>>>Back then I think my Tandy TRS80 Colour II computer was dishing me up Cyrus >>>>chess back then. >>>> >>>>These days I think the score would be allot different. I do not think his brain >>>>power could handle so many strong opponents >>> >>> >>>Against the top ten played on 450+mhz. I think Kasparov would lose most games. >>>The majority if not the vast majority.In fact there can be little doubt about >>>that. >>>S.Taylor
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