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Subject: Re: Do You know, that...

Author: Pete Galati

Date: 13:32:54 04/12/00

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On April 12, 2000 at 12:22:24, blass uri wrote:

>On April 12, 2000 at 11:42:02, Pete Galati wrote:
>
>>On April 12, 2000 at 09:07:37, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>On April 12, 2000 at 08:59:21, Christopher R. Dorr wrote:
>>>
>>>>I disagree,
>>>>
>>>>Kasparov has taken on teams of several GM's at once before, and won handily. I
>>>>believe it was the German National team two or three years ago (Somebody please
>>>>correct me if I'm wrong). If Today's programs are GMs at 40/2 (which I believe
>>>>to be the case, but which has not been conclusively proven yet), then they are
>>>>fairly average GMs, i.e. 2500-2550 FIDE. I would bet that Kasparov could defeat
>>>>32 FIDE 2500 GM's in a simul. Probably not with a lopsided score, but still
>>>>probably something in the neighborhood of 18-14. I'm about USCF 2200, and
>>>>believe that I could defeat a team of 1850s/1900s with a similar score, and that
>>>>is a similar rating differential. Additionally, I think it would be even easier
>>>>for Kaspy against the comps, as even the best micros still have identifiable and
>>>>exploitable weaknesses, and Kaspy has a great deal of experience against comps.
>>>>Against today's comps, I'd venture a score of perhaps 20-12 in favor of Kaspy.
>>>>
>>>>Chris
>>>
>>>I disagree
>>>
>>>Kasparov had problems against Genius3 in 25 minutes/game and it was with old
>>>hardware(he lost 1.5:.5 against p90 and won 1.5:.5 against p120).
>>>
>>>kasparov probably can get only 50% if he plays against 6 computers in a
>>>simultan(3 hours/game) because he has only 30 minutes against every computer and
>>>I assume that kasparov is at the same level as computers in 30 minutes/game.
>>>
>>>2 hours/40 moves is something close to 3 hours/game so I expect 50% against 6
>>>computers and less than 50% against 32 computers.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>Right, there's a huge difference in computers from 1985 (not all _that_ long
>>ago) and computers of today.  It wasn't such a great feat for a grandmaster to
>>do a simul against that many computers of that day.  And to be honest, I didn't
>>see any mention of how it was 32 computers with heavy hardware or if it was just
>>a bunch of Radio Shack desktop computer.
>>
>>I agree, he'd take a bath against 32 comuters today.  But he's pretty smart, I'm
>>sure he wouldn't attempt a simul against 32 modern computers.
>>
>>Pete
>
>I think that he can win convincingly a simul against 32 computers if the time
>control is not 2 hours/40 moves but 120 hours/40 moves.(the game can take some
>weeks)
>
>Uri

I'd like to see it happen, but before it could, all sorts of conditions would
need to be met, there would have to be allot of money for incentive too.

But in the case of Kasparov, I'd like to see something more impressive than
standard PCs, not of Deep Blue capacity, but at least 32 dual SMP computers
running SMP Chess programs.

Pete



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