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Subject: Re: Crafty 17.10 not that strong

Author: Pete Galati

Date: 22:31:17 04/22/00

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On April 23, 2000 at 00:48:44, Chessfun wrote:

>On April 22, 2000 at 14:46:28, Pete Galati wrote:
>
>>On April 22, 2000 at 15:02:19, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>On April 22, 2000 at 14:49:59, Pete Galati wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 22, 2000 at 14:20:57, A.L.Mourik wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hello dear CCC friends,
>>>>>
>>>>>Although earlier reports from e.g. Jouni Uski, suggest an enormous increase in
>>>>>strenght for Crafty 17.10
>>>>>Nuun 2 match result Fritz6 against Crafty  17.10 ends in a very clear
>>>>>29,5-10,5!! victory for Fritz6.
>>>>>Played on PII 400 8mb for HT, Timecontrol 5 min + 3 sec per move.
>>>>
>>>>There isn't generally an enormous increase in strength from version to version
>>>>of any program, that's unrealistic to expect there to be.
>>>>
>>>>Your time controls are a bit short there.
>>>>
>>>>Pete
>>>
>>>
>>>Why didn't you say or ask that of Jouni when he posted?
>>>as all he said was blitz, that may even have been faster
>>>than this.
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>Sorry, I don't read all posts, this one caught my eye because it was at the top
>>of the board.
>
>
>You had posted in the thread I referred to.
>Which was Sensation Crafty 17-10 beats F6a in nunn1 .
>

You'd need to post the html of the post where I responded to that, setting the
filters at 7 days and doing a search for "Sensation Crafty 17-10" does not turn
anything up.  I don't recall responding in such a thread.  But if you're
attempting to put me on trial for some comment that I may or may not have made
about Crafty, then you simply have too much time on your hands.

Pete

>
>>If Jouni played some games this fast or faster, then my opinion would be the
>>same, it's too fast.  That isn't to say that I have not run games at that speed,
>>I have, and they were too fast to judge the strength of a program.
>
>
>None of the Crafty supporters (for lack of a better word) at that
>point asked what the time control was or made the statement that
>it's optimized for longer time controls.
>
>All posting took the results at face value, wheras IMO the result
>is not possible nor reproducable, that is once the actual time control
>that produced those results is stated.
>
>If I find otherwise naturally I would retract that statement.
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>>Pete



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