Author: Jason Williamson
Date: 00:57:04 04/26/00
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On April 25, 2000 at 23:38:27, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On April 25, 2000 at 23:27:40, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On April 25, 2000 at 23:06:56, Peter Kappler wrote: >> >>>On April 25, 2000 at 22:28:04, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On April 25, 2000 at 21:40:32, Jerry wrote: >>>> >>>>>Sorry James, check his FI notes and see for yourself. I do notice his last 20 >>>>>games are against Goldmund(GM) elo 2553. 16 wins but with a quad xeon and elo of >>>>>3300+ that is nothing special. >>>>>He SHOULD BE able to play extremely good against both humans and computers! >>>> >>>> >>>>Finger notes mean nothing here. >>> >>> >>>Bob, why not just update Scrappy's finger notes so this issue won't keep coming >>>up? Many ICC users don't know about the 'vars' command. >> >>I don't think you will ever make everyone happy. >>Even if the notes were accurate, the bob-haters would demand to know why only >>humans are on the list. >> >>Should a person's life revolve around trying to placate a mob that cannot be >>satisfied anyway? >> >>Dr. Hyatt is gruff and forceful, and collects both admirers and detractors and >>that won't change much, if I am guessing right. >> >>These tedious tirades are one of the things most annoying about moderation. >>That's because they are right on the edge. The comments made -- are they over >>the line? Are they just self defense reactions? >> >>You poke Bob, he pokes back. You step on his toe, he steps on yours. People >>will use that as a tool to pull him into pointless discussions (though there are >>also fruitful discussions where this takes place). I have noticed (over the >>years) that as soon as you become fully civil, Bob will become fully civil. >>It's actually a pretty interesting trait. One moment he is berating some net >>pest for whatever and the next he is patiently explaining how to set up the >>crafty.rc file to the same insipid moron. >> >>At any rate, my two cents is that Dr. Hyatt is going to be himself, and he is >>not going to program the way that others want him to or change his procedures to >>those that others desire unless he sees a clear benefit for himself. Seems to >>me that such is within the sensible guidelines of allowable choice. Yet >>sometimes I wonder if he did (for instance) work a few weeks on optimizing >>crafty for 'ponderless' operation if it would not actually save time from having >>to constantly wrangle about it with those who crave it. > > >I was hoping you were borderline going to volunteer to do that, sort of like >Mike did a couple of years ago to tweak with the timing code. He spent a year >trying all sorts of ideas, some of which were good, some of which were bad, but >we ended up with a fairly simple algorithm that utilizes time reasonably >wisely (especially compared to some programs that end up in an endgame with >a huge time surplus and a material defecit due to not using enough time to >avoid problems.) > >But he did all the testing and changing on his own, with occasional discussions >and test sessions using crafty as well as his ICC account "fitter". The problem >is "time". And I _really_ want to make some progress on Beowulf Crafty, >although the 'crafty critics' will again howl in protest when it shows up on >10 quad xeons. :) LET THE WHINERS HOWL!!!!!!!!!!! :))) I want to see that beast in action. :) <snip> Jason
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