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Subject: Re: Chessfun and Nunn1 Tests

Author: Mogens Larsen

Date: 15:42:07 05/05/00

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On May 05, 2000 at 17:41:12, Chessfun wrote:

>So one minute Nunn 1 tests nothing, the next George says you can tell which
>is stronger under fair conditions and this time you agree?

The comment George made applies whether it's Nunn or not. If you want to test
anything about strength, the conditions should be fair. Don't you agree? The
problem with Nunn is that it doesn't test the program as a package deal. Testing
whether a program is better at Nunn or not can't be extrapolated to estimate the
actual strength, but you can say that x is probably stronger than y using Nunn
positions. Providing that enough games have been played of course. However, I
doubt that Nunn is fair, so I wouldn't use them. But I can't prevent you from
using them either. I believe in testing programs as a whole, not engines with
more or less arbitrary handicaps or additions.

>OK let me see if I say it if you agree? Since just by me posting something
>or the subject is about me or my testing you are bound to not let it pass.

That is only because your posts are so interesting and that isn't meant
ironically.

>These programs differ very little in playing strength. You need exact
>results under fair conditions with many games, else you can't tell which is
>stronger.

That's true, but were your results fair? I'm not sure, but they might be. If you
had answered the questions/comments I've send you, then an interesting
discussion might actually take place, but since you consider me to be Dr. Evil I
won't get my hopes up. There wasn't enough games IMO, but I think we might agree
on this.

>Or you should have checked with taskinfo or something at least check
>something before you agree.

I agreed on the assumption that interference with cpu time and ram usage might
effect a program. Since starting IE will cause that, I see no point in
questioning the assumption. I've tried starting IE and/or Outlook myself while a
match was being played and there was an effect. The problem is the significance
of using other types of software and how they're configured. I'm unable to
answer that question.

Sincerely,
Mogens Chr. Larsen
http://home1.stofanet.dk/Moq/

"If virtue can't be mine alone,
at least my faults can be my own."



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