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Subject: Re: Top players' club?

Author: Walter Koroljow

Date: 03:14:04 05/13/00

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On May 13, 2000 at 05:40:46, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On May 12, 2000 at 11:11:21, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>On May 12, 2000 at 06:48:33, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>>
>>>On May 12, 2000 at 04:20:55, Frederic Friedel wrote:
>>>
>>>In his best years, between 1974 and 1992, Karpov had an average Elo of 2710. But
>>>in 1994-1996 he had his highest Elo ever, average 2770, peak of 2780 at age 43.
>>>
>>>Beliavsky: average of 2640 in his best years (1979-1995), but a peak of 2710 in
>>>1997, age 43.
>>>
>>>Looking at the rating of elite players active for the last 20 years, there is a
>>>general trend upwards, prominent from end eighties until now.
>>>
>>>I don't know if this proves anything, but it seems to back up the idea of rating
>>>inflation in the last 10 or 15 years.
>>>
>>>Enrique
>>
>>I agree, but I think it's the entire rating list. Interestingly, this coincides
>>with the lowering of the FIDE rating entry level from 2200 to 2000.
>>
>>                                      Albert Silver
>
>I collected a few more data.
>
>The highest Elo ratings ever achieved from 1971 to 1979 were:
>
>Karpov    2700
>Spassky   2690
>Korchnoi  2670
>Tal       2660
>
>By the way, the rating of Korchnoi was higher in December 1999 than when he
>played Karpov twice for the world championship...
>
>Does anyone really believe that Bareev, Gelfand, Fedorov, Georgiev, are stronger
>players now than Karpov, Spassky, Korchnoi and Tal in the seventies? And that
>Kasparov is now 150 points stronger than the best Karpov of 1971-1979?
>
>Enrique
>
>
But the skillful use of computers for chess (databases, analysis, perhaps even
practice) -- which became possible only recently -- could significantly increase
playing strength.  In the case of Kasparov, he is only 38 and is not only
comfortable with computers (well -- PCs anyway) but has been benefitting from
the accumulated knowledge provided by his team and his own study.  These factors
could well have given him 150 more honest ELO points.  Does one have any doubt
of the result of a match between today's Kasparov and the Kasparov of the 70s?

My conclusion: it is possible that the introduction of computers into chess has
provided an additional discriminant into the chess pool legitimately increasing
the separation between the high and low ends of the ELO scale due to differences
in skill in using computers.

Cheers,

Walter



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