Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 05:10:49 10/23/97
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On October 23, 1997 at 07:34:54, Chris Whittington wrote: > >All those alpha fans will be pleased to know that Thorsten is now going >to bring a german p2 300, purchased at the last minute, to Paris WMCCC. > >Stupid, pointless waste of money, result of the ridiculous, last minute >arms race we have each year. > >How much have we all spent, ahead of time, paying premium prices for >this fast hardware ? By the time this tournament ends, I will have spent, oh, somewhere around *nothing*... But a P2/300 is certainly welcome. You'll be somewhere close to my 500mhz alpha... > >Thanks very much to the firms of alpha or dec or kryotech or whoever it >is, who want to pay out time and expense for their own promotional >purposes by supplying a few 'amateurs' with ridiculously fast hardware; >and to the 'amateurs' for asking for it in the first place so they could >get way ahead of the field. sarcasm is wasted. Alphas were participating *before* I played in my first WMCCC event last year. As were sparcs that were far faster than the 486's a year before. As I've said before, either get together and change the rules, or stop the whining. If the rules allow a supercharged motor, *someone* is going to show up with one. If you don't, you get smoked. So disallow super- chargers, get one of your own, or get run over by others. Choice is simple... > >How much simpler it all would have been if we could have stuck with the >K6 233's ? > >Maybe, before time, we could make an arms race agreement for the next >year ? > >And, one last point: if these strong amateur entries are being funded >and subsidised by major hardware manufacturors, who will no doubt use >any good results for their own purposes; how can the hardware >manufacturor - 'amateur' combination possibly be entering the WMCCC on >free entry with full amateur status ? Same argument holds for the AMD K6 machines. someone is "donating" them for the tournament. For what reason I wonder? Perhaps free publicity? So in that logic, *everyone* is professional except for the ones that tote in their own machines.. > >Seems insane to me. > >Yet another point. AMD sponsored the tournament, produced a mass of kit; >and have now been upstaged by other manufacturors supplying machines at >even higher specs, and all for the cost of shipping 3 alphas to Paris >only. > >Seems unfair and unreasonable. hardware manufactors thinking of >sponsoring future events - think again. what *is* sort of stupid is to obtain equipment that doesn't touch the leading edge. If the WMCCC equipment was leading edge PII/300's, this would not be possible. Or if AMD had pre-released the K6/300's for this event, ditto. But the K6/233 is not anything special at all. So they deserve any bad rap they get, since they are behind the rest of the microprocessor industry in speed once again... > >Chris Whittington
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