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Subject: Re: The details of a psychowar (DB team vs Kasparov in the NY Times)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 15:39:10 05/15/00

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On May 15, 2000 at 10:30:03, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On May 15, 2000 at 10:11:08, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On May 15, 2000 at 06:57:30, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>On May 15, 2000 at 06:18:51, Hans Gerber wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 15, 2000 at 05:26:39, Jason Williamson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>It is easy to interpert you arguments as boring and stupid, as the WHOLE
>>>>>discussion is boring and stupid.  The match ended, IBM made a bussiness descion,
>>>>>Kasparov will NEVER play Deep Blue again.  Lets move on to something a little
>>>>>more current, hmm something that happened in this century.
>>>>>
>>>>>Jason
>>>>
>>>>You are welcome.
>>>>
>>>>Why do you think many players don't like to play FRITZ on the Dutch
>>>>championships? Why does Kasparov oppose the participation of FRITZ in Frankfurt
>>>>although FRITZ has won the qualification last year?
>>>>
>>>>Perhaps this has something to do with 1997?
>>>
>>>I think that the reason is that the time control is too fast and kasparov
>>>believes that Fritz has practical chances to get better result than him.
>>>
>>>I think that if they use a longer time control (1 hour/game ot 2 hours/40 moves)
>>>kasparov will have no problem with the participation of Fritz.
>
>Kasparov is not playing in Dortmund either, and games in there will be at 40 in
>2. On the other hand, Club Kasparov is encouraging and covering human-computer
>events, so it is not an anti-computer attitude either. Kasparov must have
>reasons of his own.
>
>>>Uri
>>
>>
>>If I didn't know better, I would think you are arguing with someone that has
>>the initials "R and T"...
>>
>>if you get my drift...
>
>:)
>
>Really? I was told about the possibility, but I didn't think it was RT.
>
>Bob: any news about Hsu's project of building a Deep Blue Junior and having a
>match against Kasparov?
>
>Enrique


I haven't heard anything since the last report about the open letter he
wrote.  Seems that Kasparov turned him down, flatly, when he wanted a written
committment for a rematch so that he could secure investors to fund the new
machine.  So far as I know, that is now a dead issue...

I do have some questions for Hsu when I have time... one being to ask him about
his last program (DB II).  I still don't quite understand how he gets a
branching factor of 3, without null-move or something similar.  And if the
depths he produced in the output (15-19 plies in middlegame, 17-18 typical)
are really happening, that fits just right with a program using null-move +
singular extensions, searching at 200M-1B nodes per second.

I'm definitely interested.  :)



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