Author: blass uri
Date: 09:19:33 05/19/00
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On May 19, 2000 at 11:13:31, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >On May 19, 2000 at 11:00:07, Djordje Vidanovic wrote: > >>On May 19, 2000 at 10:46:36, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >> >>>On May 19, 2000 at 10:37:52, Albert Silver wrote: >>> >>>>On May 19, 2000 at 09:29:52, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >>>> >>>>Van der Wiel could give lessons on anti-computer strategy. Of course he is a >>>>VERY old hand at it, and probably the most experienced of all the players in the >>>>tournament. Made it look simple. >>>> >>>> Albert Silver >>> >>>True, and also true for Grooten and van Wely. Back to the old question: how >>>strong are today's programs? It depends on how the opponent plays against them: >>>in the van der Wiel, van Wely and Grooten way, or in the (foolish) style of van >>>den Doel and de Vreugt. >>> >>>Overall, Fritz scored very well, with 5 points out of 9 and almost a GM norm. By >>>the way, I think that Fritz running on a P300 would have lost and won the same >>>games. >>> >>>Enrique >> >>I've just come back and had a look at the game. Another effortless win by a >>human. Fritz simply had no idea what was going on. The old Levy dictum about >>doing nothing but doing it carefully was effective again... Yes, Enrique, the >>key question is just how strong are today's programs. >> >>I agree about Fritz's scoring well (5/9), but what if the other humans had >>played the slow and careful game, instead of seeking skirmish? Hmmm. All I >>know for sure is that Fritz is a great blitzer, but not a great tournamenent >>player, yet :) >> >>*** Djordje > >This doesn't apply only to Fritz, but to all programs I know. I followed all >these games with the best programs around and they were all clueless in the >anti-computer games. They have a looooong, difficult, way to go... I do not think that all of them. I remember that crafty could trade pawns by exf4 and avoid the position that van wely got against Fritz. I am also interested to know if chess system tal is also clueless in the anti-computer games. Uri
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