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Subject: Re: Van der Wiel - Fritz SSS 1-0

Author: Djordje Vidanovic

Date: 15:38:08 05/19/00

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On May 19, 2000 at 18:18:37, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On May 19, 2000 at 13:42:15, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:
>
>>On May 19, 2000 at 11:13:31, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>>
>>>On May 19, 2000 at 11:00:07, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 19, 2000 at 10:46:36, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 19, 2000 at 10:37:52, Albert Silver wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 19, 2000 at 09:29:52, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Van der Wiel could give lessons on anti-computer strategy. Of course he is a
>>>>>>VERY old hand at it, and probably the most experienced of all the players in the
>>>>>>tournament. Made it look simple.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                       Albert Silver
>>>>>
>>>>>True, and also true for Grooten and van Wely. Back to the old question: how
>>>>>strong are today's programs? It depends on how the opponent plays against them:
>>>>>in the van der Wiel, van Wely and Grooten way, or in the (foolish) style of van
>>>>>den Doel and de Vreugt.
>>>>>
>>>>>Overall, Fritz scored very well, with 5 points out of 9 and almost a GM norm. By
>>>>>the way, I think that Fritz running on a P300 would have lost and won the same
>>>>>games.
>>>>>
>>>>>Enrique
>>>>
>>>>I've just come back and had a look at the game.  Another effortless win by a
>>>>human.  Fritz simply had no idea what was going on.   The old Levy dictum about
>>>>doing nothing but doing it carefully was effective again...  Yes, Enrique, the
>>>>key question is just how strong are today's programs.
>>>>
>>>>I agree about Fritz's scoring well (5/9), but what if the other humans had
>>>>played the slow and careful game, instead of seeking skirmish?  Hmmm.  All I
>>>>know for sure is that Fritz is a great blitzer, but not a great tournamenent
>>>>player, yet :)
>>>>
>>>>***   Djordje
>>>
>>>This doesn't apply only to Fritz, but to all programs I know. I followed all
>>>these games with the best programs around and they were all clueless in the
>>>anti-computer games. They have a looooong, difficult, way to go...
>>>
>>>But don't forget something much more important than Fritz and computer chess
>>>progress in general: my dinner. :)
>>>
>>>How was our bet? Not counting the 2 forfeits, the percentage of Fritz is the 5th
>>>best in the Dutch championship. Did you say that Fritz would end up among the 3
>>>or the 5 best?
>>>
>>>Enrique
>>
>>He, he.  I believe that I said that Fritzy would be among the top five... Or,
>>did I?  Help me if you remember, OK?  Oh, man, how cunning of you.  To sow germs
>>of suspicion into my already corrupted memory.
>
>5 or 3, it doesn't matter. A corrupted memory deserves a Big Mac that I will
>mail you.
>
>Seriously: I'll invite you the first time we meet.
>
>Enrique
>
>>***   Djordje

One good turn deserves another.  Seriously:  I buy the first dinner we meet.
Later on you can squeeze in a Big Mac :))

***  Djordje





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