Author: Djordje Vidanovic
Date: 15:38:08 05/19/00
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On May 19, 2000 at 18:18:37, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >On May 19, 2000 at 13:42:15, Djordje Vidanovic wrote: > >>On May 19, 2000 at 11:13:31, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >> >>>On May 19, 2000 at 11:00:07, Djordje Vidanovic wrote: >>> >>>>On May 19, 2000 at 10:46:36, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 19, 2000 at 10:37:52, Albert Silver wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On May 19, 2000 at 09:29:52, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>Van der Wiel could give lessons on anti-computer strategy. Of course he is a >>>>>>VERY old hand at it, and probably the most experienced of all the players in the >>>>>>tournament. Made it look simple. >>>>>> >>>>>> Albert Silver >>>>> >>>>>True, and also true for Grooten and van Wely. Back to the old question: how >>>>>strong are today's programs? It depends on how the opponent plays against them: >>>>>in the van der Wiel, van Wely and Grooten way, or in the (foolish) style of van >>>>>den Doel and de Vreugt. >>>>> >>>>>Overall, Fritz scored very well, with 5 points out of 9 and almost a GM norm. By >>>>>the way, I think that Fritz running on a P300 would have lost and won the same >>>>>games. >>>>> >>>>>Enrique >>>> >>>>I've just come back and had a look at the game. Another effortless win by a >>>>human. Fritz simply had no idea what was going on. The old Levy dictum about >>>>doing nothing but doing it carefully was effective again... Yes, Enrique, the >>>>key question is just how strong are today's programs. >>>> >>>>I agree about Fritz's scoring well (5/9), but what if the other humans had >>>>played the slow and careful game, instead of seeking skirmish? Hmmm. All I >>>>know for sure is that Fritz is a great blitzer, but not a great tournamenent >>>>player, yet :) >>>> >>>>*** Djordje >>> >>>This doesn't apply only to Fritz, but to all programs I know. I followed all >>>these games with the best programs around and they were all clueless in the >>>anti-computer games. They have a looooong, difficult, way to go... >>> >>>But don't forget something much more important than Fritz and computer chess >>>progress in general: my dinner. :) >>> >>>How was our bet? Not counting the 2 forfeits, the percentage of Fritz is the 5th >>>best in the Dutch championship. Did you say that Fritz would end up among the 3 >>>or the 5 best? >>> >>>Enrique >> >>He, he. I believe that I said that Fritzy would be among the top five... Or, >>did I? Help me if you remember, OK? Oh, man, how cunning of you. To sow germs >>of suspicion into my already corrupted memory. > >5 or 3, it doesn't matter. A corrupted memory deserves a Big Mac that I will >mail you. > >Seriously: I'll invite you the first time we meet. > >Enrique > >>*** Djordje One good turn deserves another. Seriously: I buy the first dinner we meet. Later on you can squeeze in a Big Mac :)) *** Djordje
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