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Subject: Re: Bruce Moreland on computer chess

Author: Dan Ellwein

Date: 08:24:08 05/24/00

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On May 23, 2000 at 22:59:57, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On May 23, 2000 at 15:06:44, pete wrote:
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>>On May 22, 2000 at 19:25:20, Christophe Theron wrote:
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>>>On May 22, 2000 at 19:23:25, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 22, 2000 at 16:03:20, pete wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 22, 2000 at 15:49:46, Jürgen Hartmann wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>After 13. f5 black is dicked, because all the eventual open lines are going to
>>>>>>>>come at a time of white's choosing, and they will all favor white.  After that
>>>>>>>>move, black is the golf ball, it is teed up, and white is Tiger Woods.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You have a knack for describing and explaining things very well. I'm not the
>>>>>>>only one note this. Have you considered writing a book on computer chess? I
>>>>>>>would certainly buy such a book.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'd also like to out myself as Bruce Moreland fan. So here is buyer No. 2 for
>>>>>>the book.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jürgen.
>>>>>
>>>>>Let's create a Bruce Moreland fan club ; was my favourite moderator , is my
>>>>>favourite poster ( probably the only one I read all messages of ) .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I agree. I always read Bruce's posts carefully. I wish I could explain things as
>>>>clearly myself!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Christophe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>To be honest I would like to add that I think Bob is also very good at
>>>explaining technical things clearly.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Christophe
>>
>>sure and completely agreed on. I learned much from Bob Hyatt's posts !
>>
>>but it requires _way_ more effort in filtering ;-)
>>
>>Who wants to read _another_ thread about a human-computer match in 1987 (!!! ) ?
>>
>>Also "Been there , done that !" will not _always_ be the thing you want to read
>>;-)
>>
>>And the kind of most useless threads is two programmers fighting some useless
>>fights when you always will think : " Hey , if you had put all that time in your
>>program yours would have become completely unbeatable up to now ..." :-)
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>That's what I think sometimes. I say to myself: "why am I once again spending 10
>minutes in this discussion?".
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>>I still wonder why in computerchess programmers keep fighting each other that
>>much ; if you compair with Linux , Unix or Perl newsgroups where I am competent
>>enough to follow it is a most remarkable difference
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>I don't understand why you wonder. It is obvious that people who are spending
>most of their time working on something as futile as chess programs are
>completely nuts.
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>So everything is possible.
>
>I think the same happens in the world of Linux developpers, but the fights are
>not so visible maybe.
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>>Hint : something like the "years behind" thread ...
>>
>>What about all the Hardware or not Hardware threats ??
>>
>>There was a recent post by PeterMcKenzie that was quite convincing ;-)
>>
>>But calling for filter functions will always sound like censorship ...
>>
>>Will I be moderated for this one ? If yes , it is ok by me :-) !
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>You should not be moderated. What you say is true. But it will not stop.
>
>If human beings were reasonnable, they would not try to make computer play
>chess, and they would not spend so much resources just to land on the moon.
>
>I think the human race is intrinsically insane. We give ourself goals that are
>not simply related to food and reproduction. Sometimes our "artificial" goals
>take priority over the most basic ones, which is very dangerous.
>
>We are insane, and we should know it. It will help to control this madness, and
>turn this problem it into our ultimate strength. We should not feel guilty of
>our insanity, it's just how we are. We should realize this as a fact, and things
>will be easier then.

reminds me of the passage that says...

Ecclesiastes 7:29

Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought
out many inventions.

:)

pilgrimdan
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>    Christophe



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