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Subject: Another Chessbase/Fritz problem: It's worse than I thought.

Author: Vincent Setterholm

Date: 14:16:30 06/11/00

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On June 11, 2000 at 06:51:09, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On June 11, 2000 at 05:12:03, Vincent Setterholm wrote:
>
>>On June 11, 2000 at 03:44:10, Vincent Setterholm wrote:
>>
>>>I was running Chessbase 7 with Fritz 6a running analysis.  I have the Endgame
>>>Turbo CD's installed on my harddrive.  I ran into a three piece endgame position
>>>where Fritz gave really messed up analysis.
>>>
>>>Black king on c1.  White king on C3.  White rook on a5.  White to move.  Ra1 is
>>>mate.
>>>
>>>Fritz called that position a mate in three.  The move before this one Fritz
>>>correctly called a mate in 2, but once the proper moves were made, its analysis
>>>got all goofy.
>>>
>>>When I go directly into Fritz (not in Chessbase) I cannot duplicate this
>>>problem.  It sees Ra1 right away.
>>>
>>>Any ideas as to what is going on?
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>
>>I was incorrect when I stated that Fritz called the above position Mate in 3.
>>It calls the possition a mate in 2, when if you follow it's suggested move, it
>>is actually a mate in 3.
>>
>>But it gets worse.  The following is a transcript of a variation I played out,
>>following Fritz's best reccommendation for moves:
>>
>>1. Rb5 Kd1.
>>2. Re5 Kc1.
>>3. Rd5 Kb1.
>>4. Ra5 Kc1.
>>5. Rb5 Kd1.
>>6. Re5 Kc1.
>>7. Rd5 Kb1.
>>8. Ra5 Kc1.
>>9. Rb5 Kd1.
>>10. Re5 Kc1.
>>11. Rd5 Kb1.
>>12. Ra5 Kc1.
>>13. Rb5 Kd1.
>>14. Re5 Kc1.
>>15. Rd5 Kb1.
>>16. Ra5 Kc1.
>>
>>Fritz NEVER went in for the kill.  It just kept seeing mates 2 moves out.
>>
>>Black can draw by threefold repetition or by the 50 move rule!
>>
>>Anyone have ideas as to what's happening here?
>>
>>>Vince.
>
>With your same setup (CB7, Turbo CDs and F6a), I can't reproduce your problem. I
>get +-(Mate in 1) 1.Ra1# (0:00:00) depth 2/2.
>
>Enrique

What seems to be happening to me is that Fritz' analysis while playing one side
is correct, where when it becomes the next players turn, the analysis is
incorrect.  I just analyzed another game where White could draw by perpetual
check.  Fritz saw white's potential for draw when it was White to play, and
correctly evaluated the position as =0.00, but when it became black's turn, the
eval shifted to -2.22 even though white had played the correct move.  Once black
makes his best move, the analysis shifted back to =0.00.  Any ideas on that one?



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