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Subject: Re: Dr. Hyatt is right about chess programs not being GM level.

Author: blass uri

Date: 20:47:53 07/01/00

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On July 01, 2000 at 19:37:08, stuart taylor wrote:

>On July 01, 2000 at 11:03:18, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote:
>
>>On July 01, 2000 at 03:57:00, Jerry Adams wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The Best Software on the best machines are not playing grandmanster level
>>>chess. Or should I say that Rebel century is an exception? Generally Software
>>>Programs in my opinion are not demonstrationing grandmaster results? I mean at
>>>40\2hrs or am I mistaken?
>>
>>Mr. Adams,
>>
>>I think that a Dr. Hyatt is pretty competent to make that assertion.  He has
>>been doing this computer chess programming for over a quarter of a century.  He
>>also knows about grandmaster level play.  The machines just don't have a clue in
>>complex positions. They will get better.  In five to seven years we will have 12
>>teraflop home workstations and 8 man tablebase chess programs with the
>>executable portions over 2 gigabytes in length.  That should give the programs
>>enough simulation sophistication.
>>
>>But who is in a hurry.  I don't believe that the earth will end in 2012 AD.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Tim Frohlick
>
>Who's in a hurry?
>I, for sure.  I only wanted a simple, but true strong GM in machine form, so I
>can practise against and learn from it, and understand all the marvels of chess,
>before I have to give up chess completely, as I have other things to spend my
>time and interest on. But I'm just stranded in mid-air!
>  With books, you can't really check things out, and the authors are often
>wrong, and GMs or even any humans are not always available, certainly not
>according to my convenience.  And software, while able to terrorize almost
>anyone, still doesn't yet enlighten me in the ways that I'm seeking.
>S.Taylor

playing like a GM is not enough for what you want because a real GM can explain
his(her) ideas not only in moves and a machine that knows only to play like a GM
cannot do it.

Uri



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