Author: Dave Gomboc
Date: 03:32:11 07/02/00
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On July 01, 2000 at 18:13:40, Adrien Regimbald wrote: >Allo, > >>Dr. Tinsley '94 and Chinook '94 were about equal. It's tough to compare Dr. >>Tinsley '57 and Chinook '00 though. > > >Exactly :P I don't think we will ever know the answer to this.. or the answer >to what if Tinsley was alive now, in his prime, and had the benefit of all of >the new knowledge that is available.. > > >>I don't know why you say that the top human players can still beat it once in a >>while. Please cite the game. My understanding is that it hasn't lost a game >>since the last time Tinsley beat it. It has since clobbered both the reigning > > >My burden of proof here is to find one game, and within 3 minutes of looking, I >found one :P I'm sure that with more digging, more such games could be found. > > >Lafferty vs Chinook (1994, Boston, after the Tinsley vs Chinook match which >Tinsley bowed out of due to sickness): >+1 -1 =18 > > >FYI, Lafferty currently (as stated by the web page when looking at the bio for >him) has a winning record against Chinook. > >You can see a lot about Chinook at: >http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~chinook/ > >And in particular, match info at: >http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~chinook/matches.html > > >>human world checkers champion and the reigning human world correspondence >>checkers champion. We're talking +8 -0 =12 types of scores, and checkers is >>much more drawish than chess. > > >I don't think it's quite that severe - I would guess that if Chinook were to >play the best ranking player in the world who was prepared for such a match a >long series of games, I would expect to see something like this: > >Chinook wins: 20-25 % of the games >Chinnok losses: 5-10 % of the games >Draws: 65-75% of the games > > >Adrien. I forgot that Lafferty got one off of it. Still, as of a couple of years ago, Ron King (who was champion at that time, might still be <shrug>) had never beaten it. The +8 -0 = 12 might have been +7 -0 =13, I don't recall exactly, but that was the actual score against the correspondence champion when they played a match. Dave
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