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Subject: Re: How Much Stronger is Deep Junior on 8 processors than a Pent III 500?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 21:51:27 07/07/00

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On July 07, 2000 at 21:12:20, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On July 07, 2000 at 20:55:38, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On July 07, 2000 at 20:50:27, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On July 07, 2000 at 18:14:02, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 07, 2000 at 18:03:43, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 07, 2000 at 17:55:28, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On July 07, 2000 at 17:07:59, Jerry Adams wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have heard people say that against humans processor is not that significant
>>>>>>>after a certain speed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I would simply put it this way Deep blue would have never won the match against
>>>>>>Kasparov, using the primergy Netserver that is being used for Deep Junior.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Rebel beat Deep Blue using a less powerful computer than the original Deep Blue.
>>>>>Therefore, it was not the Software, but the brute power that counted the most.
>>>>
>>>>*sigh*
>>>>
>>>>You're comparing apples to airplanes (and calling them sailboats).
>>>>
>>>>I hope the CCC community has the... humanity... to avoid replying to your post.
>>>>
>>>>-Tom
>>>
>>>Mr Tom I was not comparig apples to airplanes ( and calling them sailboats),
>>>around 1 year ago there was a planned commercial version of Deep Blue to be
>>>offered for sale to the public, and they were testing it against different
>>>People and P.C. chess softwares, of course it was using a didderent time
>>>control; but the case in point was that Rebel played a blitz game against it and
>>>beat it, also Chess Tiger played another Blitz game and drew against this
>>>planned commercial version of Deep Blue, which was supposed to be on sale but
>>>never materialized.
>>
>>
>>_All_ of the above is _wrong_.  They played against a web-based program that
>>was not "deep blue" at all.  It was a demo machine set up for marketing demos
>>at the request (demand) of IBM marketing.  It had _nothing_ to do with a
>>potential commercial version, nor the version that played against Kasparov.
>>
>Mr Hyatt thank for clarifying the exact event, I was under the impression that
>the demo machine was using a replica of the Deep Blue.
>
>Pichard.
>


No.  It was a single-processor version of the DB chip, but with things removed
to make it 'stateless' so it could play via a web browser.  Hsu thought it was
sub-2200 in strength...



>>This was all covered here before, so I assume this is intended to be a troll?
>>]
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>PS: I understood the question perfectly, my comparison was not based on a
>>>nonexpert opinion, I am a programmer with 15 years of experience working for
>>>microsoft, I just have not found the time to program my own chess program,
>>>probably due to the fact that I don't have the time that is required to write
>>>a debugged chess program. I did not like your comments of accusing me to make a
>>>Doesn't Follow Fallacy such as " comparing apples-and oranges" argument.
>>>
>>>Pichard.



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