Author: KarinsDad
Date: 15:57:11 07/11/00
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On July 11, 2000 at 18:43:45, blass uri wrote: >On July 11, 2000 at 18:01:48, KarinsDad wrote: > >>On July 11, 2000 at 17:33:39, Yar wrote: >> >>>On July 11, 2000 at 17:30:50, Yar wrote: >>> >>>>this is a dead draw but comps thinks that white is winning correct moves are Bg2 >>>>!! Qf4 >>> >>>Not a lot of GM's were able to solve this >> >> >>What do you base this on? I looked at it for about 2 minutes and figured it out. >>I am only a class C player (USCF). I cannot imagine a GM not being able to >>figure this out. > >I can imagine a GM not being able to solve it. > >Some good programs cannot solve it and they are clearly better than you. >The fact that GM's are clearly better than you in playing does not say that they >are clearly better than you in solving this problem. > >Uri I cannot even come close to buying that. I could buy that ONE given GM is having a bad day and misses it, or some such, especially if he looked at it for a very short time. I could also buy that a given GM was playing a game that got to this position and missed it. Why? Maybe fatigue. Maybe time crunch. Or simply, he was not given position to move and win like we were. We were told: HEY, TOUGH POSITION, COME LOOK AT IT!. I cannot imagine that the statement above of "Not a lot of GM's were able to solve this" has any basis in fact or reality. I have won and drawn against class A players, but I have never beaten an expert (came close once). Why? Because I cannot concentrate at the level required for an entire game. So, granted, I may be a class A or expert level player when it comes to analyzing a given position on a good day. But most GMs do this for a living. They see many levels beyond me on my very best day. This is not one of those positions which is out of normal chess pattern recognition. Thinking that even some GMs would have a problem with this position if it was placed in front of them is an insult to their ability (IMHO). Thinking that one given GM had this position in a game and missed it accidentally is a different matter entirely. KarinsDad :)
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