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Subject: Computer haters?: No, you are realistic!

Author: Jeroen Noomen

Date: 08:14:07 07/17/00

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On July 16, 2000 at 16:26:07, Olaf Jenkner wrote:

Hi,

I don't think you are a computer hater, but instead you take the bull by the
horns: A chess program will never be of GM strenght as long as the main
weaknesses aren't solved. Like f.e. blocked positions or king's attacks.

The main purpose of most programmers is to improve search techniques, to improve
NPS. As long as these programmers do not take notice of the games played here, a
computer will still lose games as in Kramnik-DJ or DJ-Piket.

So I have to agree with you fully here: These games show ow BAD chess programs
play in certain positions. The game isn't over yet, the human GM is still
superior!

Akopian, Piket and Kramnik played perfect anti-computer chess. Leko chose to
play a normal game and was punished. In normal games (open, with tactics) NO one
can beat the monsters. They simply have 3000 Elo in this type of position. It is
suicide to try to win such types of position. But in closed positions or king's
attacks the PC power gets you nowhere. Therefore I'd like to see all GM's play
these type of position. Only then programmers will start to think about solving
this problem.

The more programs gets crushed this way, the faster the problem will be solved!

Jeroen


>I'm not a computer hater but very happy, if computers lose against humans. The
>reason is that only strong chess players can show us the weakness of programs.
>GM should learn to win against programs on fast hardware. Then the game starts
>again and we'll have a lot of fun during the next years.



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