Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 10:40:45 07/17/00
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On July 16, 2000 at 20:34:16, Amir Ban wrote:
>On July 16, 2000 at 12:43:59, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>
>>After so many alternatives and the end of the tournament where Junior
>>participated with such a good result, the moment is ripe for Amir to post here a
>>lot more that what he have seen from him in these days. He has been very silent
>>for good reasons I suppose, but now I would ask him to tell us about this
>>version of junior, if it is the same or a better one than the current commercial
>>one, which the changes are if they exist and any kind of gossip or technical
>>detail or humane anecdote he dims worthy of our curiosity. Amir?
>>Fernando
>
>Well, briefly, because the telephone costs here in Germany are murder.
>
>Here's the anecdote: Peter Leko "explained" what happened to Huebner, pointing
>Junior's Kh1 to a journalist as a "stupid move". The journalist asked: you mean
>a move that loses ? a bad move ? Peter said, no, no, I mean a stupid move, a
>move that drives a Grandmaster crazy. I think Peter meant: There's Huebner,
>German champion and idol, expert in philosophy, playing his methodical and
>logical game, and his computer opponent plays a meaningless waiting move.
>Huebner gets all upset and wants to go home, he plays Qd7 and offers a draw.
>Then realizing he made a bad move, he resigns.
>
>Here are my comments on the Leko game. It was not a perfect game for both sides,
>but was a real fight and by far the most entertaining game Junior played here.
>
>
>[Event "SuperGM"]
>[Site "Dortmund GER"]
>[Date "2000.07.16"]
>[Round "9"]
>[White "Leko, P."]
>[Black "DEEP JUNIOR 6"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[ECO "C48"]
>[WhiteElo "2743"]
>[PlyCount "120"]
>[EventDate "2000.07.07"]
>
>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bb5 Nd4 5. Bc4 Bc5 6. d3 c6
>
>{out of book: this is a remarkable move and probably a novelty. I was very glad
>to see it played. White will sweat if he takes on e5}
>
>7. Nxd4 Bxd4 8.Qf3 h5
>
>{Threatening to capture the queen by d5 etc., but this is a cheap tactical shot
>and positionally bad. The super-GM's in the pressroom said they were insulted
>that Junior thinks they would fall for this.}
>
>9. h3 d5 10. exd5 Bxc3+ 11. bxc3 cxd5 12. Bb3 Qc7 13. O-O O-O
>
>{Junior easily sees that taking on c3 is verboten, but his mood drops with every
>move and he admits that white has an advantage}
>
>14. Qg3 a5
>
>{Nice, because Ra6 is now effective against many threats}
>
>15. a4 Be6 16. Bh6 Ne8 17. Bd2 f6 18. f4 exf4 19. Qxf4 Nd6
>
>{Junior will not exchange queens in this position}
>
>20. Rae1 Bf7 21. Qd4 Qc6 22. Re7
>
>{Junior expected 22.g4 hxg4 23.Qxg4 Ne8 24.Rf3 and didn't like it (about
>-0.50).}
>
>22... Rfe8 23. Rxf7
>
>{Junior sees small white advantage after the exchange sac}
>
>23... Nxf7 24. Bxd5 Qd7 25. Rb1 Rad8 26. c4 Qxa4
>
>{Thought about 10 minutes on this move. It must have been worried about the
>coming 28.Bxf7+, but played this anyway}
>
>27. Rxb7 Rd7 28. Rxd7
>
>{White can play 28. Bxf7+ Rxf7 29. Qd5 Qa1+ 30. Kf2 Rf8 31. Bf4 and black looks
>bad, although the result is still unclear.
>
>Leko offered here a draw. I chose to continue because after this move Junior's
>eval switched sign to positive. After the game Leko said that a GM as black
>would be looking for ways to draw, not to win}
Your eval was positive here? I looked at this a while and concluded black is
probably losing. I sicced crafty on it for a while and it failed low at every
iteration. After 13 it was -1.61... at 14 it was -2.10, at 15 -2.25, etc...
what did DJ see to produce a + eval? I am searching the position after 28. Bxf7
which is what Crafty had for the best move for white by far...
>
>Qxd7 29. Bxa5 Re2 30. Bb6 Qe8 31. Bc7 Rxc2
>
>{Junior's eval is now a definite plus. I heard people say that this is still
>even or white advantage, but I don't believe it. This is the sort of position
>where I trust my program over any other opinion.}
>
I get almost 0.00 here after a few seconds... It doesn't seem to improve with
depth.
>32. c5 Kh8 33. Bg3 Qd8 34. Bf2 Rc1+ 35. Kh2 Qb8+ 36. g3 Nh6 37. Kg2 Rc2 38. Be4
>h4 39. Qe3 f5 40. Bd5 hxg3
>
>{Leko played these last moves in time trouble, but at least according to Junior,
>didn't make any error}
>
>41. Qxg3 Qb5 42. Qe3 Qb4 43. d4 Qb2 44. c6 Kh7
>
>{Leko repeated his draw offer. In fact he asked if the program still "refuses to
>draw".}
>
>45. Qf4 Qa3
>
>{Junior saw that after 45... Qc3 white draws by 46. Be4, and found this
>alternative}
>
>46. Be4
>
>{This move seems unnecessary, since 46. Qf3 looks ok. Leko apparently thought
>the resulting endgame would be a dead draw, and was proved wrong. Junior
>expected 46. Bf3 Qa2 47. Qe3 Nf7 48. d5 Nd6, which looks good for black.}
Here I get a pure draw score.
>
>46... Rxf2+ 47. Kxf2 fxe4 48. c7 Qa8 49. d5 Qa7+ 50. Kg2 Qa2+ 51. Qf2 Qc4 52. d6
>Qc6 53. Qf8
>
>{Seems this is the losing move. White had to try 53. Kf1}
He must have overlooked the consequences of the check with queens still on?
Crafty is at +1.0 here
>
>53... e3+ 54. Qf3 Qc2+ 55. Kf1 Qc4+ 56. Kg2 Qe6 57. Qc6 Qa2+ 58. Kh1 Nf5 59. Qe4
>Qa1+ 60. Kh2 Qb2+
>
Obviously hopeless here. I get +8 after 1 second.
>{Leko thought about 15 minutes before resigning}
>
>0-1
>
>
>Amir
Well done. It looked dicey at the beginning... Goes to show that "it ain't
over till it is over" against humans...
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