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Subject: Re: best chess programmers

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 14:24:40 07/20/00

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On July 20, 2000 at 14:37:48, blass uri wrote:

>On July 20, 2000 at 09:10:10, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>
>>On July 19, 2000 at 21:05:18, walter irvin wrote:
>>
>>>my best 5 chess programmers
>>>1.deep blue team (deep blue)
>>>2.richard lang (all were good + 8 titles!!!!!!)
>>>3.amir ban (deep junior)
>>>4.frans morsch (fritz)
>>>5.ed  (chess machine  and rebel)
>>>
>>>there are a few that get left off the list ,either they did not win a title or
>>>they just could not keep pace with the better programs .
>>
>>In my eyes are not the professional programmers the best chess programmers.
>>Amateur programmers have in the month ~15 hours for his chess programs. And for
>>this time are in my eyes the amateur programs GENIAL !!!
>>
>>Look how strong played AnMon, Phalanx, Comet, Amy, TCBishop, SOS, LGoliath, Yace
>>and the others. 100-150 weaker than professional programs.
>>
>>Professional programmers work more then 15 hours in the week.
>
>How do you know?

I have contacts to a lot of programmer. But you have right. I think it is a
average.
>
>I believe that most of the professional programmers have full time job not in
>chess programming(Amir Ban is one example).

Yes, but I think Frans Morsch, Richard Lang, Marty Hirsch and the others works
more hours, days, years at his programs. Look Insomniac, I think Insomniac is 50
ELO weaker than Chess Genius 5.0 and the new version maybe better ? And now look
the time factor. We have x examples. I will be speeking with professional
programmers in Leiden 2000 about this theme. I have not to many contacts to
professional programmers but I asked professional programmers from time to time
when I have the chance.

>It is also possible that some amatuer programmers work more then 15 hours in the
>week.

It is possible yes. I have the information that Christian Barreteau work 15
hours in the months on his program !!

What say you now ?
You think ... and how many years :-))

Regards
Frank



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