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Subject: Re: best chess programmers

Author: Tom Kerrigan

Date: 16:30:04 07/21/00

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On July 21, 2000 at 16:48:29, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On July 21, 2000 at 15:00:18, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>
>>This thread is going nowhere fast. I don't agree with anything you say, but it
>>would be a waste of my time to explain why. But here are two quick comments that
>>will hopefully make you feel incredibly stupid.
>>-Tom
>>
>>
>>On July 21, 2000 at 10:13:00, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>Sure I am.  Should I tell you when the first SMP PC came along?  Of course,
>>
>>Yes, please do tell me when the first SMP PC came along. Because I distinctly
>>remember reading computer magazines when I was ~10 years old, and they
>>advertised SMP 386 computers. And that was a long, long time before Crafty.
>>
>>>>Just face it, you didn't invent SMP PC chess programs. If you think I'd believe
>>>>that crap, you might as well start telling me that you invented the Internet.
>>>I never said I did.  I did write the first shared memory parallel search that
>>
>>Har. Actually, you did say it. Direct quote:
>>"With plenty of innovations from rotated bitmaps to being
>>the first SMP (PC) program running..."
>>
>>Or did you mean that other SMP PC programs didn't run? They all seg faulted?
>>
>>-Tom
>
>
>Name the SMP PC program.  I've never heard of one.  To date, I know of the
>following:  (in order of their creation I think):

I already named Zugzwang. True, Zug is a message passing program, but that
doesn't contradict the fact that it was running on an SMP computer and utilizing
all the processors. If by SMP program you really mean, "utilizes all the
processors the way Bob Hyatt thinks they should be utilized," then perhaps you
should start saying that.

>BTW, there is a _big_ difference between writing the first SMP PC program
>and "inventing SMP PC chess".  If you don't understand the difference, read
>a book...

I've read many books, some even on computer chess, and I still don't see the
difference. Do enlighten me.

>There aren't many SMP pc chess programs at all.  There are more message-
>passing programs around, dating back to the late 1970's...

Again, what is it exactly in a message-passing program that excludes it from
being Symetrically Multi Processed?

>As far as SMP 386's, I'm not aware of any that were useful, and even a hand full

Great, Bob Hyatt doesn't think they're useful, therefore they don't exist? Good
call. By the way, you still didn't tell me when SMP PCs came out.

-Tom



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