Author: blass uri
Date: 06:57:27 07/22/00
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On July 22, 2000 at 09:54:15, Marcos Christensen wrote: >On July 22, 2000 at 07:49:57, blass uri wrote: > >>On July 22, 2000 at 07:13:40, Ralf Elvsén wrote: >> >>>On July 22, 2000 at 06:05:00, blass uri wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>It is not clear that programs are better than me in static evaluation in games >>>>but the opposite is also not clear and I believe that the evaluation of >programs is more comlicated than the evaluation of humans even if it is not >better. >>> >>>The evaluation of programs maybe consider more factors on average than >>>humans. But humans have an ability to concentrate better on the >>>important things in a position. If there is a kingside attack you >>>don't care about overall pawn structure. You concentrate on tactics >>>and king safety and try to refine that part of the evaluation. >>>And in other positions it's the other way around. To code that >>>ability to concentrate on the important things would be extremely >>>hard, I think, and this is a part of the evaluation function that >>>in programs is essentially blank. Suggestion: look at e.g. Crafty's >>>evaluation. Then think about what you do yourself. I would be >>>surprised if you still would think Crafty's evaluation is more >>>complicated, or better for that matter. (I'm talking about >>>static eval of course). >> >>There are cases that I am better in evaluating king attacks but not always. >>I remember a case when I avoided a move because I was afraid of king safety >>problems. >> >>I analyzed the position with programs after the game and found that they were >>not afraid of the problem and they were right and I simply overestimated the >>opponent's chances against my king. >> >>It is not clear to me that my static evaluation is better. >> >>Uri > Perhaps your evaluation were correct. It is well known now (vide leko and >kramnik games) that computers are not SOOO good in king safety terms. Why you >not belive in you? :) There are cases when I believe in my evaluation but there are cases when analyzing the position with the computer convince me that my evaluation was wrong. Some people never change their mind even if they see a proof that they are wrong. I am not one of them. Uri
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