Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 13:47:05 07/22/00
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On July 22, 2000 at 10:25:15, blass uri wrote: >On July 22, 2000 at 10:17:44, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On July 22, 2000 at 00:39:09, blass uri wrote: >> >>>On July 21, 2000 at 16:48:09, Randall Shane wrote: >>><snipped> >>>>Using the above statement to claim that Deep Blue had a simple evaluation >>>>function is a clear misunderstanding of the paragraph's internal and external >>>>context. From that statement, all that one can reasonably derive is that Deep >>>>Blue has a simpler eval function than the human brain >>> >>>I think that commercial programs has more complicated evaluation function than >>>the human brain. >> >>I hate to argue here, but this is _absolute_ nonsense. Chess programs are to >>the human brain as an insect is to the human specie. Insects can do some >>things better. They can carry more, in ratio to their body weight. They >>can jump higher. But they are _not_ more knowledgeable about anything. >> >>I'm surprised anybody would even begin to suggest this. I'd be more than >>happy to read any evaluation function you want and point out the places where >>I have knowledge that it doesn't. But we are going to have to have a lot of >>time to do this, because the gap is HUGE. > >There are many things that humans know and computers do not know but there are >many things that computers know and humans do not know. > >Humans can forget about one weakness in their evaluation and computer cannot do >it. > >I did not say that computer programs have better evaluation function but more >complicated. > >If I have to calculate the evaluation of a chess program instead of using my >brain then I will have to use a lot of time. > >Humans can see 1-3 nodes per second because they do not do a lot of calculations >in their evaluation function. > >Uri > > >Uri The human brain is generally credited with the ability to do the equivalent of 2 billion instructions per second. Just not one after the other. But all 2 billion at one time. Just because we only search 3 nodes per second does not mean that is all we are doing. You only have to watch a GM play blitz vs a computer to realize there is more going on in his head than that puny 3 nodes per second, otherwise they would _never_ win or draw. Yet they do all the time...
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