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Subject: Re: Moderation: The best way to complain about posts on CCC.

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 18:02:04 07/23/00

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On July 23, 2000 at 15:43:13, Pete R. wrote:

>On July 22, 2000 at 05:37:07, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>
>>On July 22, 2000 at 04:46:46, Mark Ryan wrote:
>>
>>>On July 22, 2000 at 04:09:34, Andrew Williams wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 22, 2000 at 01:59:33, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 21, 2000 at 18:28:40, Andrew Williams wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>[snip]
>>>>>>I happen to agree that the original "who is the best programmer?" post
>>>>>>was likely to cause problems, but at least one other moderator posted a message
>>>>>>where he said it was an interesting topic.
>>>>>[snip]
>>>>>
>>>>>Sorry to exacerbate such problems! ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>Yeah. You should be ashamed of yourelf!  :-)
>>>>
>>>>Seriously, the point I was trying to make was that although the original
>>>>post didn't appeal to me, you (to take another member at random) did like
>>>>it. So in a poll of two randomly selected members we have a 50-50 split.
>>>>It's hard to make a case for deleting the post in those circumstances.
>>>>(Until hindsight kicks in, of course).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Andrew
>>>
>>>There was nothing wrong with the original post.  The fact that sub-threads
>>>degenerated into negativity is not the fault of the original post, which was
>>>on-topic and straightforward, a list of the poster's 5 "best" programmers.  If
>>>you are an automobile manufacturer, you know that some people are going to
>>>become reckless/drunk drivers, but you still must manufacture the automobiles.
>>>The original post was valid;  some of the sub-threads were nasty.
>>>Regards,
>>>Mark
>>
>>That's how I look at it too.
>>
>>Dave
>
>And I thought it was a worthless thread that nothing good could come of, and I
>would have nuked it, and then laughed at anybody who cried about censorship. So
>don't elect me as moderator then. :) Who the hell is Walter Irvin, and who cares
>what programmers he likes?!?  It was a troll, or at best simply a stupid
>chat-room mentality topic, and I think this list is above that. Or should be.

Moderators don't get to do everything the way they'd like to.  Some people
criticized me for posting a message to a thread telling people to stop posting
to it, but I shrug that off.  That solution is less severe than deleting the
thread outright, which is what I used to do before.  I view it as a compromise.
:-)

I also let many posts that aren't terribly relevant (but on the other hand, are
not egregiously horrible) sit around, mainly because I don't receive moderator
email complaining about them.  In the cases that I do get such mail, I know that
somebody felt bothered enough to complain, so I take action at that point.

I don't presume to know who Walter Irvin is.  I generally take the "offered
names" at face value unless the user gives me a reason not to.

This web board is above some things, but not as many things as I'd like.  You
can't have it all. <shrug>

Dave



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