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Subject: Re: now vs then

Author: Chris Carson

Date: 15:26:58 08/17/00

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On August 17, 2000 at 16:49:07, walter irvin wrote:

>On August 17, 2000 at 13:00:29, pavel wrote:
>
>>On August 17, 2000 at 12:39:13, Chris Carson wrote:
>>
>>>On August 17, 2000 at 12:10:32, walter irvin wrote:
>>>
>>>>  i wonder how fritz6 on a 1 ghz would have stacked up vs hitec or cray blitz or
>>>>for that matter deep blue ???????ok maybe deep blue is a stretch , but hitec or
>>>>cray blitz ????
>>>>
>>>> also with the new computer world championship commimg up year 2000 .i wonder
>>>>how the world champ from 84 or 85 would do in this years tourny ????? have
>>>>things really got that much better?????
>>>
>>>Ok, I'll bite.  :)
>>>
>>>My opinion (take it with a grain of salt because we cannot match up
>>>the programs).  :)
>>>
>>>1.  Fritz6 (PIII 1GHZ) vs Hitec (1989 hardware)        Fritz6 wins +200 ELO
>>>2.  Fritz6 (PIII 1GHZ) vs Cray Blitz (1989 hardwar)    Fritz6 wins +200 ELO
>>>3.  Fritz6 (PIII 1GHZ) vs Deep Blue (96&97)            DB wins +200 ELO
>>>4.  2000WMCC vs CrayBlitz (1986 WCCC)                  2000WMCC wins
>>>
>>>Hey, it's just my opinion.  :)
>>>
>>>Best Regards,
>>>Chris Carson
>>
>>
>>right its more 'realistic'........but to tell the truth we will never know.
>>so even discussing about it is quiet 'useless'
>>unless you get some first hand, real life matches between these machines and
>>programs......
>>which is almost impossible....
>>so we are still nowhere..
>>
>>pavel
>
>true but im starting to think that the big hardware is over rated .when was the
>last time a mainframe won a world championship .its always a pc program .

See: http://www.mark-weeks.com/chess/wcc-comp.htm

1989 Deep Thought (+5,0,0) was the last big iron to win (Miphisto X scored
3.5 and tied for third with Hiarcs and Cray Blitz).  The smaller micros
have won the rest:

1992: Chessmachine (Schroeder)
1995: Fritz        (Morsch/de Gorter/Feist)
1999: Shredder     (Meyer-Kahlen)

Big Iron representatives:
Hiarcs 1992, Zugzwang 1992, DT/DB 1995, Star Socrates 1995, Zugzwang 1995,
Cilkchess 1999, P.Conners 1999,  Zugzwang 1999

Best Regards,
Chris Carson



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