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Subject: Re: SSDF(Crafty 17.07 - SOS)AMD K6-2 450, 1-5.

Author: Aaron Tay

Date: 04:07:39 08/20/00

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On August 20, 2000 at 06:55:45, Uri Blass wrote:

>On August 20, 2000 at 05:45:42, Aaron Tay wrote:
>
>>On August 19, 2000 at 19:57:56, Bertil Eklund wrote:
>>

>>Sure under chessbase gui it gets a better book. But why do you say better
>>book-learning?
>>
>>IMHO the book learning that comes with the winboard Crafty is superior to >>chess base's..
>
>It may be superior against humans because you cannnot use the same strange
>opening again and again but I have no evidence that it is superior against
>computers.

>I think that against computers the learning of the chessbase engines is >superior because chessbase engines try to repeat the same opening that they >won again and again when My knowledge is that crafty tries to avoid losses but >not to repeat wins.

I think you are right. Good point. Every win adds % chance of playing for
chessbase gui but not for crafty..For Crafty it doesn't go out of it's way to
avoid repeating the win,but it doesn't make it more likely to repeat it either.

The only problem is that the CB learner can be damaging when it learns from
playing weak opponents..

>Trying to repeat wins can be counter productive against humans because the
>opponent can expect the opening.

>Crafty also does not play more than 4 games in a row against computers so the
>author does not care about learning in long matches against computers and
>learning in long matches is important in long matches against computers so I
>think that the learning of chessbase is better against computers.

Hmm, if every chesseng (Most on SSDF are from the CB family) has CB
learning,your argument wouldn't stand, since, trying to repeat wins wouldn't
work anyway..

In terms of avoiding bad moves, Crafty is better..


>>
>>Also does the position learning work when using in chessbase?
>
>The position learning is not important today in comp-comp games.
>It was done only to prevent humans to repeat the same win with a strange >opening
>again and again.

probably right. ..




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