Author: Bruce Moreland
Date: 10:32:33 08/26/00
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On August 25, 2000 at 17:43:12, Albert Silver wrote: >On August 25, 2000 at 05:48:49, Roger Kyte wrote: > >>On August 24, 2000 at 10:37:09, Pete Galati wrote: >> >>>On August 24, 2000 at 05:47:35, Roger Kyte wrote: >>> >>>>On August 23, 2000 at 23:18:29, Pete Galati wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 23, 2000 at 21:47:04, Roger Kyte wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On August 23, 2000 at 02:25:13, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>It is nice to meet people in person. If you haven't gone to one of these, and >>>>>>>you have a program, I recommend that you go. You'll meet some interesting >>>>>>>people, and learn a lot. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>If things are done over the internet, there is less communication and less >>>>>>>common experience. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I'm happy to go, I just don't want it always to be me who pays for the 11-hour >>>>>>>plane trip. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>bruce >>>>>> >>>>>>You complain that it costs money to participate in a prize fund match. >>>>>> >>>>>>Also, you do not release your program as an engine for sale, perhaps as a >>>>>>chessbase engine, this would also cover your expenses and then some. >>>>>> >>>>>>I think you have to take part of the blame for your financial woes and not blame >>>>>>others. >>>>> >>>>>I don't see it that way. It's just not Crafty's nature to be a money making >>>>>machine. Same thing with several other programs there. It's rather pointless >>>>>to turn the tournament into something that is only posible to compete in if you >>>>>have a comercial program. Besides, why would he have turned Crafty into a >>>>>commercial program in anticipation of this event? Doesn't make sense to me. >>>>> >>>>>Pete >>>> >>>>Crafty ? >>>> >>>>Note the thread header 'Re: WMCC/Ferret? >>>> >>>>How did Crafty get in here, Crafty cannot make money because of an agreement >>>>between, Dr. Hyatt and the University he works for, he cannot make money on the >>>>program, hence it is freeware. >>>> >>>>Remember, I was only discussing Ferret. Please read my posts _carefully_ before >>>>you comment. Bye >>> >>>That was reckless of me. But apply the exact same thing I said about Crafty to >>>Ferret. It still applies. Bruce could turn Ferret into a commercial venture, >>>but all for the sake of an occasional tournament? No, it's not going to happen >>>for the sake of covering tournament costs. >>> >>>Pete >> >>Last year he came in second and could certainly have sold his engine as a CB >>engine. He chose not too. Now he complains he has no money for tournaments. I >>think Bruce has only one person to blame, instead of trying to hang others for >>his own poor decisions. > >Odd that you complain about others not reading your posts carefully when you >yourself have completely distorted what Bruce posted. > >Here is what he said in http://www.icdchess.com/forums/1/message.shtml?125741 : > >"I'm also a little grumpy because the event hasn't been held in North America >for approximately forever, and I've had to pay for a big plane ticket every time >it's been in Europe. Every time in recent memory that the event has been >outside of Europe, there has been travel support. I am concerned that the event >is turning into a European championship." > >Note there is no mention of financial woes involved. The question is one of >equality for all. Quite American. > > Albert Silver The event really needs to be in North America, but perhaps it's too late, and nobody would go unless they got travel support. In the past it's been pretty easy to fill a 24-entrant roster, but this time there were 14. So maybe $100 or whatever the fee was, plus a trip to the edge of Europe (as opposed to the center), was enough to drive away almost half the field this time. bruce
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