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Subject: Re: DIEP in WMCCC2000 London - long story

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 15:38:07 08/29/00

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On August 29, 2000 at 14:10:26, Ernst A. Heinz wrote:

>Hi Diepeveen,
>
>>Especially seeing what the shortcomings were is very interesting for
>>the future. That it looks like a big excuse for what is wrong, as
>>dr. Ernst A. Heinz suggested after previous report in 1999
>>sure isn't the truth. Without analysis you
>>can't continue. In fact how many THINGS have you read about the
>>WMCC yet? Probably nothing except the results of the games and
>>some people who still call shredder 'lucky' to win the world championship
>>tournament for the 3rd time. Without seeing things that are wrong or went
>>wrong you can't improve anyway. Note that what is in here is MY VIEWPOINT.
>>It is NOT the viewpoint of any organisation or company. If people disagree
>>and quote, please let them not quote a single line, but the whole picture;
>>the reason for that is quite obvious: i'm born in a country where we don't
>>speak much english, so misformulations of a single line should be taken
>>with a bit of salt. It's the whole picture that makes the story!
>>
>>Note that the basic difference between Heinz and me seems to be that i can play
>>some chess, about 2254 points higher rated and therefore i realize very clearly
>>what's happening in the computer chess world, where Heinz still says that it
>>is not proven that knowledge works!
>
>The difference between "Heinz" and you seems to be that "Heinz"
>does not take anything for granted unless sufficiently proven,
>whereas you, "Diepeveen", hold your personal convictions as
>divine truths which you feel enlightened to spread like a
>crusader.
>
>My reply to your garbage above is simply as follows.
>
>1.  I never said that knowledge does not work. Actually, I have
>    always supported a balanced "fast and smart" approach. At the
>    same time, I do neither believe in knowledge as the one and
>    only solution to all open challenges in computer chess.
>
>2.  Although you are obviously unable to grasp and remember what
>    I have already told you about my own chess playing, here we go
>    again: I no longer play competitive chess becasue I deem it far
>    too time consuming; yet, my last OTB rating was around 100 Ingo
>    (the then German rating system) which translates to more than
>    2000 ELO if I am not mistaken. So much about your stupid claim
>    of rating 2254 points higher ...
>
>Do I need to say more about your other claims?
>
>=Ernst=

With Vincent, you have to take the whole package.  He has firmly held opinions,
and when he aims one of these at you, you have to duck and grab your shoes.  He
also has a lot of insight, he can direct his most cutting criticisms at himself
as well as at others, his mother is a great cook, and if you ask him he'll haul
you and your computer clear across northern Europe.

So as someone who likes you both, I ask you to laugh this off and attempt to
stay on civil terms.

bruce



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