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Subject: Re: The privilege of becoming a beta-tester

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 12:54:16 09/06/00

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On September 06, 2000 at 15:29:20, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>On September 06, 2000 at 14:33:52, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>>As I said before, if you choose to offer your services as betatester/developer
>>>stating your ambition clearly about revealing your ideas and thoughts only in
>>>exchange of money, then it's fine with me.
>>
>>First of all, this idea that somehow getting paid for work is immoral has got to
>>be the oddest one I've seen in a long time. That being a developer should only
>>be a volontary job is also rather mysterious, though I'm sure all companies will
>>back you solidly on it... :-)
>
>Where did you read that? I haven't said anything resembling that kind of
>statement. If the programmers approach you then you can decide whether you want
>to get paid or not. If you offer your services for free and withold information
>you plan to sell later on, then it's immoral. But _I_ would consider it to be
>immoral if I chose to make money on a something I enjoy as a hobby. You are more
>than welcome to feel differently.
>
>>If it is within the scope of the person's accepted responsibilities, I agree,
>>otherwise it is at the person's discretion IMO.
>
>That's complete nonsense. Either you contribute to the best of your abilities or
>not at all. At least according to my definition of integrity.

I disagree.

If a beta tester is asked to give games and the tester give the games and
nothing more than it  then I see nothing immoral with the fact that the tester
hide ideas that can help the program.

Programmers of commercial programs do not reveal their source code when they
give their program to the testers.

I see no reason to assume that the testers have to reveal everything they think
about when the programmers do not have to do it.

Programmers do not think that the testers have to reveal every idea that they
think in order to improve their program.
I did it in the past in 1998-1999 but I was not asked to do it.

Uri



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