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Subject: Re: Rebel8 and Rebel9 on SSDF.

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:27:49 12/10/97

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On December 10, 1997 at 22:13:19, Bela Andrew Evans wrote:

>On December 10, 1997 at 13:27:35, Tony Hedlund wrote:
>
>>On December 09, 1997 at 18:06:08, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>>> >>So the question arise with which book SSDF tested Rebel8 and Rebel9?
>>>>> >>Certainly not the provided commercial books.
>>>
>>>>I use the default settings. Which means rebel.mvs with Tournament book.
>>>>None of the example games have been tested by me.
>>>
>>>Well it's looks simple to me. All 6 games I provided were games between
>>> Rebel8 P100 and
>>> Rebel9 P200 MMX
>>>Not so difficult to trace the SSDF tester in question?
>>
>>Not at all. We know very well who it is. Thoralf have told him to put
>>the
>>main book on. But he's not to blaim. In the manual it says that Rebel
>>plays
>>better with the Tournament Book on. It's not obvious that the main book
>>must
>>also be on. A while back in time it wasn't so.
>>
>>
>>Tony
>
>These arguments back and forth about blaim are immaterial.  For the SSDF
>rating list to have credibility, Rebel 8 and 9 must be tested at full
>strength with each program's full opening book.  Now whether this means
>retesting hundreds of games, are just a few, I believe that the SSDF
>list will have no validity until proper testing is done.  Again, whose
>error this is does not matter in the least; please just correct the
>error in the next SSDF list.
>
>My $.02, Bela

While I agree, it also seems prudent for each program author to release
the program set up to play the strongest game it can play, with
instructions
on how to make it play more randomly from the book.  IE this is what I
plan
to give to the SSDF when Crafty begins to play...  Install and play with
*no* options at all other than setting the hash tables larger if memory
is
available.  But no tweaking with the book, no changing this or that...

I have a similar "tournament book" in Crafty, that is always on unless
the
user chooses to play without it...  with the idea that the
"off-the-shelf"
version is the strongest, and you can whittle it down as needed.  For
the
SSDF I'm going to be sure that I give them a reasonable opening book to
avoid
the debacles I see when someone uses "small" or "medium"...



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