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Subject: Re: Computer Chess Museum - Opinions Please

Author: Will Singleton

Date: 22:06:41 09/24/00

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On September 24, 2000 at 22:33:22, Pete Galati wrote:

>On September 24, 2000 at 22:08:08, Will Singleton wrote:
>
>>On September 24, 2000 at 21:17:12, D Ridge wrote:
>>
>>>Greetings All,
>>>
>>>I'd like your collective opinion on an ambitious, gigantic and noble project
>>>I've been thinking about. My name is David Ridge, I'm in my mid-forties and I've
>>>been a computer chess fanatic for 23 years.
>>>
>>>My first machine was a Chess Challenger 7 in 1978 and I've owned over 40
>>>different dedicated units between now and then. Like most of you, I mostly use
>>>chess software on a PC these days but I have fond memories of those early days
>>>when dedicated units ruled and a newer, stronger, better one was always just
>>>around the corner.
>>>
>>>You see, I learned chess in 1978, just when dedicated chess playing units were
>>>becoming technically possible. For those of you who weren't around the scene
>>>then, I'll tell you a little about it. The early machines played poorly, but so
>>>did I. They improved with each new unit and, so did I. We kind of grew together.
>>>
>>>The late 70's and early 80's saw a furious pace of development with great
>>>imagination and ingenuity applied to some very unique concepts like the Scisys
>>>Mark V and the Executive hand-held. Even Mattel got into the act with a LCD
>>>pocket unit. There were LCD touch screens and Robot Adversaries. Heady days
>>>indeed.
>>>
>>>Anyway, I've been thinking a lot lately that someone ought to preserve this
>>>history of computer chess. A computer Chess Museum is required. Of course this
>>>could never be a commercially viable project. People aren’t going to line up
>>>around the block to buy tickets to see this stuff.
>>>
>>>Some form a privately owned view-by-appointment collection would be the way to
>>>go. I would like to try to take this project on. Now, I know there were about
>>>500 different units manufactured since the beginning of time and, since I'm not
>>>wealthy (an understatement to be sure) there is no way I could afford to
>>>purchase these things.
>>>
>>>Surely many of the really old ones are probably lying dormant and worthless in
>>>someone's closet or garage, waiting for the next yard sale.I was thinking that I
>>>would appeal to the world chess community to send me their old, useless, unloved
>>>computers for a nominal fee of ..say…$10 to compensate them for the trouble of
>>>packaging it up and I would also pay the cost of shipping. In return I would
>>>pledge to inscribe their name prominently as "Donated by...", sort of their
>>>chance at immortality.
>>>
>>>I'm not talking about finding all 500…that would be unrealistic. I'm thinking
>>>that, over a period of years, 100 to 200 units could be accumulated, all
>>>representing something different or unique. Perhaps a kind of retirement
>>>project.
>>>
>>>Do you think it would fly or am I over-estimating people's philanthropy? Or am I
>>>just plain crazy??
>>>
>>>Looking forward to your responses.
>>>
>>>You can respond here or to me directly at dridge@idirect.com.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>David
>>
>>Good idea.  I think a number of people have wanted to do something like this,
>>myself included.  One large problem, of course, is space.  Where the heck could
>>you display all these machines appropriately?  It almost has to be the type of
>>deal where a guy dedicates a room or two in his place, then has the ability to
>>schedule time, etc.  Would be nice if it was in a large city, so folks could get
>>there easily.
>>
>>I'd also like to see early programs that ran on the appleII series, as well as
>>the pc, commodore, etc.  Of course, then you'd really need some generosity.
>>
>>I have a couple old machines I can donate, but I'd like to see a list of
>>commitments before going forward.  I'll commit to a CompuChess and a Boris
>>(subject to where you are, and if you have your act together).
>>
>>Will
>
>Oh, that would be great if he had working computers of the appropriate age with
>those old programs running on them, especially if the original program's boxes
>were on display, Mike has a great selection of images on his website.
>
>I suppose it wouldn't be practical to run computers that are that old for
>extended periods of time, but if visitors could try the programs while they ran
>on modern machines, on emulators when needed, that would be very popular among
>visitors.  You have to figure that it wouldn't be good to have people handling
>the standalone (term?) Chess-set/computers, but it probably wouldn't be a
>problem having them try old programs, and you certainly wouldn't need a very
>modern computer to do that on.  For that, an old 486 even if it only had Dos
>could run any Chess program that used MS-Dos.
>
>Can a Mac run Apple II programs?
>
>Pete

I don't know about a mac, but there's an emulator for dos (windows?) that runs
the apple 2.  I still can't figure out how to get the old progs off the 5.25"
disks though.

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