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Subject: Re: A (useless) CM8000 Beta vs. Crafty 17.13 tournament

Author: José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba

Date: 16:38:43 09/29/00

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On September 29, 2000 at 16:04:24, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On September 29, 2000 at 14:50:05, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>Just in case anybody is curious, and since some of you asked for some test
>>games, I ran a 16-game tournament at G/30 overnight with Chessmaster 8000, Beta
>>6 (usually there are about 10-12 Beta versions before the product becomes a
>>"Release Candidate"). The development team believes, though, that the version of
>>The King is now final, unless something really ugly shows up.
>>
>>These test games were run by me, on my PIII-600, with default settings for both
>>engines, and were not requested (or perhaps not even SANCTIONED) by the
>>development team. Nor are they probably very interested in them. But, here they
>>are, for those who might want to draw some conclusions....
>>
>>Chessmaster    +6 =6 -4   9.0
>>Crafty 17.13   +4 =6 -6   7.0
>>
>>Some of you may notice, in the games that follow, that Chessmaster will win if
>>Crafty resigns (since the UI now understands the "resign" command from an XBoard
>>engine). But Chessmaster (as always) NEVER resigns, meaning that any opponent
>>will have to follow through to mate. Not that this makes any difference in the
>>score. It just means that the games take a little longer.
>>
>>Enjoy....
>jm
>
>
>It is more interesting to find out how CM8000 score against the best by the SSDF
>Fritz 6a, which is how most programmers test their chess Programs, since Fritz
>6a has become the chess Benchmark for the best or trying to become the best in
>P.C. Chess softwares.
>
>Pichard.
>

	I think that is a wild overstatement. Christophe Théron has said that he tests
against human players from his local chess club. I guess that most programmers
test against a wide variety of engines, and those who have the chance play
agains many strong human players (like crafty).
	If I were a chess programmer, I would be far more interested in winning
computer tournaments than in topping the SSDF list (and so I would focus more on
Shredder than on Fritz).
José.



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