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Subject: Re: Kasparov vs Kramnik playing an open game of chess is exciting, But ?!

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 17:58:23 10/17/00

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On October 17, 2000 at 20:39:41, Andrew Dados wrote:

>On October 17, 2000 at 20:23:13, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On October 17, 2000 at 19:51:05, Andrew Dados wrote:
>>
>>>On October 17, 2000 at 19:37:32, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>When two humans play an open game of chess specially for the World's
>>>>Title it is very exciting to watch. We have not seen too many of these open
>>>>games played since the era of Bobby fischer, which is probably the reason why
>>>>his games were full of fire. But if any of these two gladiators dare to play an
>>>>open game against any of the top leading programs such as Fritz and Chess Tiger
>>>>they would not have a chance to defeat these tactical monsters.
>>>>The only way to beat the best P.C chess programs is by playing the way that
>>>>Kramnik played against Deep Junior with opening like the Stone wall Defense, and
>>>>once P.C chess programs are programmed to handle closed openings like the Stone
>>>>Wall defense they will become unbeatable.
>>>>
>>>>Pichard.
>>>
>>>Your claims are baseless. Why do you keep posting those trolls?
>>>-Andrew-
>>
>>I post these messages because there are still people like you who do not seems
>>to know where the real strength of a computer program lies, unless you have been
>>hiden underneath a rock for the last five years, I would not waste my time
>>trying to explain to you from where am I making these assumptions, neither you
>>seems to be too knowledgeable to comprehend these issues. I am almost certain
>>that almost 60 % of the CCC readers would agree with me on this matter.
>>
>>Pichard.
>
>Since you seem much knowledgeable then me please give me some game examples when
>computers beat so clearly players of 2700+ strength (or even 2600+). Otherwise I
>will continue to see your claims as baseless. I saw quite a few open games from
>Israeli league or Rebel challenge or even Dortmund but didn't see computers
>dominate there so obviously as you want to see.
>
>-Andrew-

These players were given plenty of time to prepare against all these programs
which were avaivable on the market for several months before the Israeli league
took part. I am pretty sure that if a player play against a new version of
either Rebel or Gambit Tiger and playing open games they would hardly win a
game.

Pichard.



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