Author: Uri Blass
Date: 07:04:05 10/18/00
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On October 18, 2000 at 09:16:23, Jorge Pichard wrote: >On October 17, 2000 at 22:44:02, James Robertson wrote: > >>On October 17, 2000 at 19:37:32, Jorge Pichard wrote: >> >>>When two humans play an open game of chess specially for the World's >>>Title it is very exciting to watch. We have not seen too many of these open >>>games played since the era of Bobby fischer, which is probably the reason why >>>his games were full of fire. But if any of these two gladiators dare to play an >>>open game against any of the top leading programs such as Fritz and Chess Tiger >>>they would not have a chance to defeat these tactical monsters. >>>The only way to beat the best P.C chess programs is by playing the way that >>>Kramnik played against Deep Junior with opening like the Stone wall Defense, and >>>once P.C chess programs are programmed to handle closed openings like the Stone >>>Wall defense they will become unbeatable. >>> >>>Pichard. >> >>This is bogus. Shirov defeated 8xprocesser Fritz in an open G/25, even >>sacrificing two exchanges to complete the job. >> >>James > >Peter Leko from Hungria is rated 2748 by Fide 2 points higher than Shirov, but >lost to Deep Junior in srandard time control when he dared to play an open game >against DJ. I far I as I can tell G/25 is not such of an advantage for computer >any longer, since the more time you provide the System the deeper they will also >calculate and in an open game they will definitively outcalculate any Super GM. > >Pichard. I believe that super GM's have good chances to win in open positions but they have also good chances to loe. Probably they believed that they have better chances in closed positions so most of them played for closed positions. It is not clear that programs will outcalculate GM's because there are cases when there is a long line that no program can see. I saw examples for it. There are combinations of humans that no program can see at tournament time control. computers are better in short tactics but the best humans can be better at long tactics. Uri
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