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Subject: Re: A test position(perpetual check),chessmaster and Fritz have problems

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 06:32:07 10/21/00

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On October 21, 2000 at 05:28:14, Uri Blass wrote:

>I composed this position to see if chessmaster can see perpetual check.
>
>[D]4k3/6RQ/6PP/8/r7/8/r7/7K b - - 0 1
>
>The target is to see 0.00 score
>
>I found that chessmaster does not see the draw even after some minutes but after
>Ra1+ Kg2 it can see the draw very quickly in clearly smaller depth.
>
>The same after Ra1+ Kh2
>
>I tried also Fritz5.32 and it does not see the draw at least after a short time.
>
>If I give Fritz5.32 the moves  Ra1+ Kg2 it can see the draw but after Ra1+ Kh2
>it has problems to see the draw.
>
>Fritz5.32 expects Kg2 when it plays Ra1+ and wants to play Kg2 at depth 13 with
>evaluation 0.00.
>
>How many squares can the white king visit before the repetition?(it is clear
>that the white king cannot visit all the 21 squares (b1-b3... h1-h3))
>
>Uri


It takes a 17 ply search in Crafty to find this.  Which takes 90 seconds
on my PII/400 notebook:

              17     1:33     ++   1. ... Ra1+!!
               17     1:38   0.00   1. ... Ra1+ 2. Kh2 R1a2+ 3. Kh3 R2a3+
                                    4. Kh2 Ra2+
               17->   1:46   0.00   1. ... Ra1+ 2. Kh2 R1a2+ 3. Kh3 R2a3+
                                    4. Kh2 Ra2+
               18     1:55   0.00   1. ... Ra1+ 2. Kh2 R1a2+ 3. Kh3 R2a3+
                                    4. Kh2 Ra2+
               18->   2:05   0.00   1. ... Ra1+ 2. Kh2 R1a2+ 3. Kh3 R2a3+
                                    4. Kh2 Ra2+
               19     2:18   0.00   1. ... Ra1+ 2. Kh2 R1a2+ 3. Kh3 R2a3+
                                    4. Kh2 Ra2+
               19->   2:33   0.00   1. ... Ra1+ 2. Kh2 R1a2+ 3. Kh3 R2a3+
                                    4. Kh2 Ra2+
               20     2:56   0.00   1. ... Ra1+ 2. Kh2 R1a2+ 3. Kh3 R2a3+
                                    4. Kh2 Ra2+
               20->   3:34   0.00   1. ... Ra1+ 2. Kh2 R1a2+ 3. Kh3 R2a3+




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