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Subject: Re: Decision made.

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 18:45:09 11/06/00

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On November 06, 2000 at 19:19:40, Wayne Lowrance wrote:

>On November 06, 2000 at 11:20:56, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On November 06, 2000 at 08:54:36, Bertil Eklund wrote:
>>
>>>On November 06, 2000 at 01:40:47, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 05, 2000 at 14:10:11, K. Burcham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>chris, that was funny.  but the first chance i get, i will upgrade to the new
>>>>>dual athlon motherboards, with the dual athlon mb--you should get a minimum of 3
>>>>>gig mhz, or sys.com is advertising a new 1.6 at their site (kyro), dual 1 gigs
>>>>>are all over the internet, i have (dual processor) diep, dj, and will get deep
>>>>>shredder as soon as it is available, i also have most of the single proc.
>>>>>programs. i have ordered rebel 11, the new millinium package, cm8000, and i have
>>>>>the powerbook, nalimov and ken thompsons tbs. i see that the 1.5 gig p4 is
>>>>>available on the internet. this should be available with a dual mb by jan. or
>>>>>feb. with a 3 gig dual setup with my dj---you should get about 1650 kns. like i
>>>>>said, when i read about all this hardware, i start sweating, and then i call my
>>>>>boss and tell him i need to work some overtime. i dont do drugs and i dont drink
>>>>>thunderbird, but i enjoy these programs, and overclocking my processor to see
>>>>>how it responds.  my 1050 is boring because i want to see what gambit-tiger will
>>>>>do running on an 1800 mhz k7 or k8 with about 4 sticks of 128 megs of the new
>>>>>ddr ram. i am very aware that there is more to comp chess than just hardware,
>>>>>and i am very aware of the accomplishments of robert, chris, amar, shay, stefan,
>>>>>ed, etc., but i am having a blast.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>If your pleasure is on hardware, great. Personally the hardware evolution makes
>>>>me dizzy.
>>>>
>>>>I still test Tiger on 386sx-20MHz (if you know what it is :), and my dream is to
>>>>make Tiger the strongest program in the world on that hardware.
>>>>
>>>>I play "mine is bigger than yours" with software only. Knowing that my processor
>>>>is going to consume in just one day more Watts than some people in the third
>>>>world will use in their whole lifetime does not make me especially happy.
>>>>
>>>>So you can guess what I think about multiprocessor computers.
>>>>
>>>>Sorry to spoil the Gigahertz party. I'm not mother Theresa, but sometimes I feel
>>>>a little bit guilty. Which does nothing to solve the problem, I know, I know...
>>>
>>>Hi!
>>>
>>>Can your program win against Genius in blitz on a 386?
>>>
>>>It's better than Genius in blitz on todays computers but not with a large
>>>margin. It's of course clearly better on all longer time-controls.
>>>
>>>Bertil
>>
>>
>>
>>I don't have enough games, but last time I tried (6 months ago), Genius5 and
>>Tiger 12.4 were apparently equal on this hardware.
>>
>>That was game in 10 minutes. I played 20 games or so.
>>
>>This is also why I still admire Richard's work. If hardware did not have
>>improved as significantly during the past 10 years, Richard's old programs would
>>still be on top!
>>
>>I wonder if there is any program that could beat Genius5 in blitz on such
>>hardware.
>>
>>I must add that there have been significant changes between Tiger 12.4 and Tiger
>>13.0, so maybe it's better now. But I have not tested.
>>
>
>Oooops,Tiger 12.4 ? i have Tiger 12.0e. Have I missed upgrades available to me ?
>Not important now cause I am ordering new Tiger programs tomorrow, but to the
>extent that I am missing upgrades would be of concern.


You did not miss any upgrade. Tiger 12.4 was an internal release which was
published widely, but in my office only, for my personal use only. It was the
version of June.




>Bye the way the dialog between you and Bruce was terrific.


I'm pretty sure it has to do with the person I'm talking with.



>Wished all of the
>crafty crap would go away.


I'm pretty sure... Same comment as above.



    Christophe



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