Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Computers Learn from Experience in Middlegame?

Author: Howard Exner

Date: 22:10:10 11/08/00

Go up one level in this thread


On November 08, 2000 at 21:08:09, Bob Durrett wrote:

>On November 08, 2000 at 19:10:12, Simon Waters wrote:
>
><snip>
>>Of course it is possible that the program has learnt from it's own experience,
>>or had it's weekly dose of latest GM games injected into it.
><snip>
>Following this logic . . .
>
>So, if some of the computer programs, such as Fritz, can learn from experience
>in the middlegame [as opposed to during the phase where the program is still
>using it's opening book], then it may be that no two Fritz programs are the
>same, after they have been used awhile.  [Assuming "learning in the middlegame"
>has not been disabled somehow.]  In other words, if 100,000 copies of Fritz 6.0
>are out there being used by chessplayers, then it would be likely that no two of
>these computers would be exactly alike.  This would follow from the
>improbability that any two users would have played exactly the same lines,
>taking exactly the same amount of time at each move, etc.
>
>Is that a fair assessment?  If it is, then it might be impossible for a GM to
>prepare for a match with the computer program since what was "learned" in the
>middlegame would, in all likelihood, be different from what that GM's home
>computer program would have "learned in the middlegame."

Would that kind of learning be restricted to recording the best move from a
variety of positions? If so then the hope of applying it would be remote.
Learning on a broader scale as in human-like pattern recognition would be
ominous but seems too futuristic.
>
>Do some of the programs out there learn in the middlegame [after out of opening
>book]???????  And, if so, is this a big determinant of the program's playing
>style and strength?  If so, maybe we should try to purchase copies of the
>programs which had been used awhile in the home of one of the top GMs.  They
>might have learned something not in the original program!

Indeed. Or have a project where many users submit their learning files to a
central area for merging and re-distributing.



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.