Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 20:54:59 11/14/00
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On November 14, 2000 at 20:01:09, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>>what a nonsense. the grandmasters cannot find out about the strength.
>>>you have no clue.
>>>they evaluate something as strong that reminds them on themselves,
>>>but they do not see a strong program.
>>
>>That is absolute nonsense.
>
>no.
>i have tested this and often seen in tv, in paderborn, in den haag
>and sometimes my friend bern visits me and with him it is the same:
>he has problems to understand about the programs.
>its always the same: the chessplayers prject their own strength and weaknesses
>into the programs. if they see themselves. they say: oh - its strong.
>you could show them a mirror and they would say: strong player. looks good !
>
>john nunn e.g. had problems with the king programs. because john nunns
>playing style comes near to the king itself.
>
>my friend bernd kohlweyer was much weaker, but since he played petrosian-alike
>he had no problems with the king-versions. he smashed them away.
>although his elo is lots weaker than JN.
>IM markus schäfer playes like CSTal e.g. and if he sees a petrosian-like
>chess program he believes it is weak !
>if he sees a tal-playing chess program he believes it is strong.
>the humans are very very subjective. i don't understand that you don't see this.
>strange.
>why do you believe some humans are objective. i mean: how can any
>human beeing be objective ?
>they all subjects. or ?
>
>or is their a data-robot like guy ?
This statement of Thorsten is very true.
I fear that people will find it insulting for strong chess players, but I
totally agree with Thorsten here.
I hope people will not feel it as an insult. It is not.
I hope the strong chess players could read this and think about it, and after a
while they would smile about it and eventually say: "well there might be some
truth here".
Christophe
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