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Subject: Re: Chess Tiger 13.0 without tablebases (a test position) !

Author: Chessfun

Date: 05:37:16 11/16/00

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On November 16, 2000 at 07:51:33, Peter Skinner wrote:

>>>Engine version   : Rebel Century 2.01
>>>Hash table size  :  28 Mb
>>>
>>>8/8/8/6Np/2N5/Pk6/6K1/8 w - -
>>>
>>>00:00  01.01  3.13  1.Ne4 Kxc4
>>>00:00  02.00  3.13  1.Ne4 Kxc4
>>>00:00  02.15  3.13  1.Ne5
>>>00:00  02.16  3.13  1.Nd6
>>>00:00  02.17  3.13  1.Ne3
>>>00:00  02.20  3.13  1.Nb6
>>>00:00  02.21  3.13  1.Nb2
>>>00:00  03.00  3.35  1.Ne4 Kxc4 2.a4
>>>00:00  04.00  3.05  1.Ne4 Kxc4 2.Kh3 Kb5
>>>00:00  04.01  3.05  1.Kg3
>>>00:02  05.00  3.05  1.Ne4 Kxc4 2.Nf6 h4 3.a4
>>>00:03  05.01  3.05  1.Kg3
>>>00:03  05.02  3.12  1.Ne6 Kxc4 2.Nf4 h4 3.a4
>>>00:05  06.00  2.71  1.Ne6 Kxc4 2.Nc7 Kb3 3.Nb5 h4
>>>00:06  06.01  2.85  1.Ne4 Kxc4 2.Nd2+ Kb5 3.Kg3 Ka4
>>>00:07  06.03  2.85  1.Kg3
>>>00:11  07.00  2.91  1.Ne4 Kxc4 2.Nd2+ Kb5 3.Kg3 Ka4 4.Nc4
>>>00:27  08.00  2.90  1.Ne4 Kxc4 2.Nd2+ Kb5 3.Kg3 Ka4 4.Nc4 Kb5 5.Nd6 Ka4
>>>01:15  09.00  2.79  1.Ne4 Kxc4 2.a4 Kb4 3.Nc3 Ka5 4.Kh3 Kb4 5.Kg3
>>>02:24  10.00  3.66  1.Ne4 Kxc4 2.a4 Kd5 3.Nc3 Kc6 4.Kh3 Kd7 5.a5 Kd6
>>>02:26  11.00  4.12  1.Ne4 Kxc4 2.a4 Kd5 3.Nc3+ Kd4 4.Kh3 Ke5 5.a5 Kd6 6.a6
>>>02:31  12.00  4.80  1.Ne4 Kxc4 2.a4 Kd5 3.Nc3+ Kd4 4.Kh3 Kc5 5.Kh4 Kc4 6.Kxh5
>>>Kb4
>>>02:40  13.00  4.81  1.Ne4 Kxc4 2.a4 Kd5 3.Nc3+ Kd4 4.Kh3 Kc5 5.Kg2 Kb4 6.Kh3 Kc5
>>>7.Kg2 Kb4 8.Kh3
>>>
>>>Rebel Tiger 13.0
>>>
>>>Move: Nd2+  (3/22)  depth=16
>>>Score: 6.62   depth: 16
>>>Ne4 Kxa3 Kh3 h4 Ng6 Kb4 Nh7 Ka3 Ne5 Ka4 Nf6 Ka3 Nfg4 Ka4 Nd7 Kb4
>>>
>>>Tiger takes nearly 1.5 mins to find Ne4, yet Rebel 2.01 analysis engine in the
>>>Rebel 11.0 package finds Ne4 instantly.
>>
>>Hello !
>>
>>Now I have copy this position with Copy-FEN in the Tiger 2 and here is the
>>complet analysis from Riger 13.0 on my P600:
>>
>>00:00:00.2	6,62	8	104349	Ne5 Kxa3 Kh3 h4 Ng4 Kb4 Nf6 Ka3
>>00:00:00.6	6,62	9	164124	Ne5 Kxa3 Kh3 h4 Ng6 Kb4 Ne4 Ka3 Nf6
>>00:00:01.3	6,62	10	369047	Ne5 Kxa3 Kh3 h4 Ng6 Kb4 Ne4 Ka3 Nf6 Ka4
>>00:00:03.4	6,62	11	833098	Ne5 Kxa3 Kh3 h4 Ng6 Kb4 Ne4 Ka3 Nf6 Ka4 Nf4
>>00:00:06.5	6,62	12	1674057	Ne5 Kxa3 Kh3 h4 Ng6 Kb4 Ne4 Ka3 Nf6 Ka4 Nf4 Ka3
>>00:00:12.6	6,62	13	3264429	Ne5 Kxa3 Kh3 h4 Ng6 Kb4 Nh7 Ka3 Ne5 Ka4 Ng4 Ka3 Nhf6
>>00:01:27.3	6,60	14	24011669	Ne5 Kxa3 Kh3 h4 Ng6 Kb4 Nh7 Ka3 Ne5 Ka4 Nf6 Ka3 Ng6
>>Ka4
>>00:02:30.9	6,62	15	40910247	Ne5 Kxa3 Kh3 h4 Ng6 Kb4 Nh7 Ka3 Ne5 Ka4 Nf6 Ka3 Ne4
>>Kb4 Ng4
>>00:03:38.0	6,62	16	59138704	Ne5 Kxa3 Kh3 h4 Ng6 Kb4 Nh7 Ka3 Ne5 Ka4 Nf6 Ka3 Nf7
>>Kb4 Nh6 Ka3
>>00:07:28.3	6,62	17	122131984	Ne5 Kxa3 Kh3 h4 Ng6 Kb4 Nh7 Ka3 Ne5 Ka4 Ng4 Ka3 Ne3
>>Ka4 Nf6 Ka3 Neg4
>>
>>Tiger is with Re5 in Deep 18 with Ne5 after > 10 minutes.
>>
>>Rebel Centuty is in this position better ! :)
>>
>>Regards,
>>Eduard
>
>As you can see I can get Tiger to find Ne4 after about 1.5 minutes. Rebel 2.1
>finds it instantly. I am wondering why your Tiger will not go to Ne4 as quickly.
>Possibly does this have anything to do with learning? You have already played
>the game, I have not...


The line you previously posted;

Rebel Tiger 13.0

Move: Nd2+  (3/22)  depth=16
Score: 6.62   depth: 16
Ne4 Kxa3 Kh3 h4 Ng6 Kb4 Nh7 Ka3 Ne5 Ka4 Nf6 Ka3 Nfg4 Ka4 Nd7 Kb4

On post: http://site2936.dellhost.com/forums/1/message.shtml?138870

Is wrong.....the first move should read Ne5.

See below;
; 00:01:33.6  1.   Score: 6.62   depth: 15 Ne5 Kxa3 Kh3 h4 Ng6 Kb4 Nh7 Ka3 Ne5
Ka4 Nf6 Ka3 Ne4 Kb4 Ng4
; 00:02:15.0  1.   Score: 6.62   depth: 16 Ne5 Kxa3 Kh3 h4 Ng6 Kb4 Nh7 Ka3 Ne5
Ka4 Nf6 Ka3 Nf7 Kb4 Nh6 Ka3
; 00:04:36.9  1.   Score: 6.62   depth: 17 Ne5 Kxa3 Kh3 h4 Ng6 Kb4 Nh7 Ka3 Ne5
Ka4 Ng4 Ka3 Ne3 Ka4 Nf6 Ka3 Neg4

; Analysis completed

Sarah.







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