Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 07:13:40 11/25/00
i don't think Nf6 is accurate, but i like this game especially since
gambit-tiger shows interesting scoring at almost any stage of the game.
e.g. look
[Event "60/60"]
[Site "k6-400"]
[Date "2000.11.21"]
[Round "3-100"]
[White "Gambit-Tiger1.0"]
[Black "opponent"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Opening "A32 English: Symmetrical Variation"]
{Book(s): rebel.bk}
1.Nf3 { Score: 0,00 Nf3 } 1...Nf6 2.c4 { Score: 0,00 c4 } 2...c5 3.d4 { Score:
0,00 d4 } 3...cxd4 4.Nxd4 { Score: 0,00 Nxd4 } 4...e6 5.Nc3 { Score: 0,00 Nc3 }
5...a6 6.e3 { Score: 0,00 e3 } 6...e5 7.Nf3 { Score: 0,40 depth: 12 Nf3 Nc6 a3
d6 Bd3 d5 cxd5 Nxd5 Nxd5 Qxd5 e4 Qd8 Bg5 f6 Be3 } 7...Nc6 8.Bd3 { Score: 0,48
depth: 12 Bd3 d5 cxd5 Nxd5 Be4 Nxc3 Qxd8+ Nxd8 bxc3 f5 Bd5 e4 Nd4 g6 Bb2 }
8...Bb4 9.Bd2 { Score: 0,56 depth: 12 Bd2 d5 cxd5 Nxd5 Nxd5 Qxd5 Bxb4 Nxb4
Qa4+ Nc6 Be4 Qc5 Qa3 Qxa3 bxa3 } 9...d6 10.Nd5 { Score: 0,64 depth: 11 Nd5
Bxd2+ Nxd2 Be6 Qb3 O-O Nxf6+ Qxf6 Qxb7 Rfc8 Be4 Ra7 Qb6 Qd8 Qxd8+ Nxd8 }
10...Bxd2+ 11.Nxd2 { Score: 0,40 depth: 13 Nxd2 Be6 Qb3 Rb8 Nxf6+ Qxf6 Ne4
Qe7 Qa3 Rd8 O-O f5 Ng3 e4 Bc2 } 11...Be6 12.Qb3 { Score: 0,52 depth: 13 Qb3
Bxd5 cxd5 Na5 Qa4+ b5 Qh4 Qe7 Qb4 Nb7 O-O O-O Bf5 Nxd5 Bxh7+ Kh8 } 12...Bxd5
13.cxd5 { Score: 0,54 depth: 14 cxd5 Na5 Qa3 Nxd5 Ne4 O-O Nxd6 Qb6 O-O Nb4
Rfd1 Rfd8 Nc4 Nxc4 Bxc4 } 13...Na5 14.Qa4+ { Score: 0,38 depth: 12 Qa4+ b5
Qd1 Nb7 O-O Nc5 Bc2 Qa5 Bf5 g6 Nb3 Qb4 Bc2 } 14...b5 15.Qd1 { Score: 0,36
depth: 13 Qd1 Nb7 O-O O-O Bf5 g6 Bh3 Nc5 b4 Ncd7 Qf3 Nb6 e4 } 15...Rc8 16.O-O {
Score: 0,60 depth: 12 O-O Nxd5 a4 Nb4 Bf5 Rb8 Qg4 g6 Bxg6 fxg6 Qxb4 Nc6 Qc3
} 16...Nxd5 17.Bf5 { Score: 0,88 depth: 12 Bf5 Rc7 Ne4 Nf6 Nxd6+ Ke7 Ne4 Qxd1
Rfxd1 Nxe4 Bxe4 Nc4 b3 Nd6 Bd5 } 17...Rc7 18.a4 { Score: 0,64 depth: 12 a4
Ne7 Bb1 Nc4 axb5 Nxd2 Qxd2 axb5 Qd3 Rc5 Ra7 Qb8 Qa3 } 18...Ne7 19.Bb1 { Score:
0,60 depth: 13 Bb1 Nc4 axb5 axb5 Nxc4 bxc4 Qh5 Rb7 Ra2 Qb8 Qg4 O-O Qxc4 Rb4
Qd3 } 19...Nc4 20.axb5 { Score: 0,56 depth: 13 axb5 axb5 Nxc4 bxc4 Qh5 Ng6
Rd1 O-O Ra6 Qb8 Be4 Qxb2 Raxd6 c3 Qf5 } 20...axb5 21.Nf3 { Score: 0,72 depth:
11 Nf3 b4 Qa4+ Qd7 Rc1 Qxa4 Rxa4 Nb6 Rxc7 Nxa4 Ra7 Nb6 Bd3 } 21...Rc5 22.b3 {
Score: 1,16 depth: 13 b3 Nb6 Ng5 h6 Ne4 Rc6 Qg4 Kf8 Qh5 Qd7 Ng5 g6 Qh4 }
22...Nb6 23.Ng5 { Score: 1,18 depth: 12 Ng5 h6 Ne4 Rc6 Qg4 Kf8 Qh5 d5 Ng5
Ng6 Nf3 e4 } 23...h6 24.Ne4 { Score: 0,96 depth: 13 Ne4 Rc6 Qg4 Kf8 Ra7 Qe8
Rd1 Nec8 Rb7 d5 Ng3 Nd6 Ra7 } 24...Rd5 25.Qg4 { Score: 1,40 depth: 13 Qg4 Kf8
Rc1 f5 Qf3 Kg8 Nc3 e4 Qf4 Rc5 b4 Rc7 Ba2+ Nc4 Nxb5 } 25...Kf8 26.Rc1 { Score:
0,99 depth: 12 Rc1 f5 Qf3 Kg8 Nc3 e4 Qf4 Rc5 b4 Nbd5 Ba2 g5 Bxd5+ Rxd5 }
26...b4 27.Ra7 { Score: 1,16 depth: 12 Ra7 f5 Qf3 Kg8 Ng3 e4 Qe2 Rc5 Rxc5
dxc5 Qc2 Nec8 Rb7 } 27...f5 28.Qf3 { Score: 0,72 depth: 13 Qf3 Kg8 Rb7 fxe4
Bxe4 Ra5 } 28...Kg8 29.Rb7 { Score: 0,64 depth: 13 Rb7 Ra5 g4 fxe4 Bxe4 Rc5
Rxc5 dxc5 Bg6 Qf8 Qxf8+ Kxf8 Rxb6 Nxg6 Rxg6 } 29...Ra5 30.Nf6+ { Score: 0,70
depth: 12 Nf6+ gxf6 Bxf5 h5 Be6+ Kg7 h4 Rh6 Rcc7 Ra1+ Kh2 Kf8 Rxe7 Qxe7 Rxe7
Kxe7 } 30...gxf6 31.Bxf5 { Score: 0,68 depth: 12 Bxf5 h5 Be6+ Kg7 h4 e4 Qg3+
Kf8 Rcc7 Rc5 Rxe7 Qxe7 Rxe7 Rc1+ Kh2 Kxe7 } 31...Kf7 32.Qh5+ { Score: 0,84
depth: 11 Qh5+ Kf8 Be6 Rh7 Rd1 Ra2 Qf3 f5 Qh5 Qe8 Qxe8+ Kxe8 Rxb6 } 32...Kf8
33.Be6 { Score: 0,84 depth: 12 Be6 Rh7 Rd1 Ra6 Qf3 f5 Bxf5 Rf7 Qh5 Rxf5
Qxh6+ Ke8 Rxd6 } 33...Rh7 34.g3 { Score: 1,04 depth: 11 g3 Rc5 Rd1 Nbc8 }
34...Rc5 35.Ra1 { Score: 0,56 depth: 13 Ra1 e4 Qh4 Ng6 Rxh7 Nxh4 gxh4 }
35...Nbd5 36.Bxd5 { Score: 1,42 depth: 13 Bxd5 Rxd5 Qf3 Rd2 Qxf6+ Kg8 Raa7
Qf8 Qxf8+ Kxf8 Ra8+ Kf7 Rxe7+ Kxe7 Ra7+ Ke8 Rxh7 Rd1+ Kg2 } 36...Rxd5 37.Qf3 {
Score: 1,28 depth: 13 Qf3 Rc5 Qxf6+ Kg8 Raa7 Rf7 Qe6 Qc8 Qxc8+ Rxc8 Rxe7
Rxe7 Rxe7 Rc3 Re8+ Kf7 } 37...Rd2 38.Raa7 { Score: 1,78 depth: 13 Raa7 Rf7
Rd7 Qe8 Ra8 Nc8 Rxf7+ Qxf7 Rxc8+ Kg7 Qg4+ Kh7 Qf5+ Kg7 Rd8 d5 Rd7 } 38...Ke8
39.Qxf6 { Score: 2,00 depth: 10 Qxf6 Rb2 Qe6 Kf8 Rc7 d5 Rd7 Qb8 Qf6+ Kg8
Rxe7 Qxa7 Rxa7 Rxa7 Qxe5 } 39...Rf7 40.Qh8+ { Score: 3,08 depth: 15 Qh8+ Rf8
Qg7 Rf7 Rxe7+ Qxe7 Ra8+ Kd7 Qg4+ Qe6 Ra7+ Kc6 Qxe6 Rd1+ Kg2 Rxa7 Qg4 Rc1 Qf3+
Kc7 } 40...Rf8 41.Qg7 { Score: 3,32 depth: 16 Qg7 Rf7 Rxe7+ Qxe7 Ra8+ Kd7
Qg4+ Qe6 Ra7+ Kc6 Qxe6 Rd1+ Kg2 Rxa7 Qg4 Rc1 Qf3+ Kb6 Qf8 Kb7 } 41...Rf7
42.Rxe7+
{ Score: 3,24 depth: 14 Rxe7+ Qxe7 Ra8+ Kd7 Qg4+ Qe6 Ra7+ Kc6 Qxe6 Rd1+ Kg2
Rxa7 Qg4 Rc1 Qc8+ Rc7 Qd8 Kb7 Qxd6 R7c3 } 42...Qxe7 43.Ra8+ { Score: 1,20
depth: 14 Ra8+ Kd7 Qg4+ Qe6 Ra7+ Kc6 Qxe6 Rd1+ Kg2 Rxa7 Qxh6 Raa1 h4 Rg1+ Kf3
Kd5 Qg6 Raf1 e4+ Kc5 } 43...Kd7 44.Qg4+ { Score: 1,70 depth: 14 Qg4+ Qe6 Ra7+
Kc6 Qxe6 Rd1+ Kg2 Rxa7 Qc4+ Kb6 Qxb4+ Kc6 Qc4+ Kb6 Qh4 Ra2 Qxh6 Rdd2 Qf8
Rxf2+ } 44...Qe6 45.Ra7+ { Score: 1,70 depth: 13 Ra7+ Kc6 Qxe6 Rd1+ Kg2 Rxa7
Qc4+ Kb6 Qxb4+ Kc6 Qc4+ Kb6 Qh4 Ra2 Qxh6 Rdd2 } 45...Kc6 46.Qxe6 { Score: 1,96
depth: 15 Qxe6 Rd1+ Kg2 Rxa7 Qc4+ Kb6 Qxb4+ Kc7 Qc4+ Kb6 Qh4 Ra2 Qxh6 Re2
Qf8 Rdd2 h4 Rxe3 g4 } 46...Rd1+ 47.Kg2 { Score: 1,48 depth: 10 Kg2 Rxa7 Qc4+
Kb6 Qxb4+ Kc6 Qc4+ Kb6 Qh4 Ra2 Qxh6 Rdd2 Qf8 } 47...Rxa7 48.Qc4+ { Score: 1,76
depth: 14 Qc4+ Kb6 Qxb4+ Kc6 Qc4+ Kb6 Qg4 Raa1 h4 Rab1 Qe6 h5 Qe8 Kc5 Qxh5
Rd3 Kf3 Rbxb3 } 48...Kb6 49.Qxb4+ { Score: 1,97 depth: 14 Qxb4+ Kc6 Qc4+ Kb6
Qh4 Ra2 Qxh6 Kc6 Qf8 Rd3 Qf3+ Kc5 h4 Rxb3 h5 Rbb2 h6 } 49...Kc6 50.Qe4+ {
Score: 1,54 depth: 13 Qe4+ Kb6 Qh4 Ra2 Qxh6 Kc6 Qe6 Rdd2 Qf5 Rdc2 h4 Kc5 h5
Kb4 } 50...Kb5 51.Qc4+ { Score: 2,10 depth: 14 Qc4+ Kb6 Qh4 Ra2 Qxh6 Rb2 h4
Rxb3 Qf8 } 51...Kb6 52.Qh4 { Score: 2,20 depth: 13 Qh4 Kc6 Qxh6 Ra3 Qe6 Rd2
h4 Raa2 Qc8+ Kb5 Qb7+ Kc5 Qc7+ Kb5 Kh3 } 52...Ra5 53.Qxh6 { Score: 3,10
depth: 13 Qxh6 Ra3 Qf8 Kc6 h4 Rxb3 Qc8+ Kb5 h5 Rbb1 h6 Rh1 Qd7+ Kc5 h7 Rhg1+
Kf3 } 53...Rb5 54.Qf8 { Score: 3,92 depth: 12 Qf8 Rc5 h4 Rcc1 h5 Kc6 h6 Rh1
Kf3 Rcg1 b4 Rh2 } 54...Kc5 55.Qc8+ { Score: 3,98 depth: 12 Qc8+ Kb6 h4 Rc5
Qd8+ Kc6 Qe8+ Kb6 h5 Rcc1 h6 Rh1 Qg6 Rcg1+ Kf3 Kc5 } 55...Kb6 56.h4 { Score:
4,70 depth: 13 h4 Rc5 Qb8+ Kc6 b4 Rcc1 b5+ Kd7 b6 Rg1+ Kf3 Rc8 Qb7+ Kd8 Qd5
Kd7 Qb5+ Ke6 } 56...Rc5 57.Qb8+ { Score: 6,50 depth: 13 Qb8+ } 57...Kc6 58.b4
{
Score: 6,52 depth: 12 b4 } 58...Rb5 59.Qa8+ { Score: 6,98 depth: 13 Qa8+
Kb6 h5 Rxb4 h6 Rbb1 h7 Rh1 h8Q Rbg1+ Kf3 Rxh8 Qxh8 Kc5 } 59...Kb6 60.h5 {
Score: 7,10 depth: 13 h5 Rxb4 h6 Rbb1 h7 Rh1 h8Q Rbg1+ Kf3 Rxh8 Qxh8 Kc5
Qc8+ Kb4 Qc7 Rd1 Qb6+ Kc3 } 60...Rc1 61.h6 { Score: 7,48 depth: 12 h6 Rc7 g4
Rxb4 Qb8+ Rb7 Qxd6+ Ka7 h7 Rxg4+ Kh3 Rxh7+ Kxg4 Rh2 f3 Rg2+ Kf5 Rf2 } 61...Rc7
62.g4 { Score: 7,80 depth: 13 g4 Rxb4 Qb8+ Rb7 Qxd6+ Ka7 h7 Rxg4+ Kh3 Rxh7+
Kxg4 Rg7+ Kf3 Rf7+ Ke2 e4 Qd4+ Kb8 Qxe4 } 62...Rh7 63.g5 { Score: 10,95
depth: 13 g5 } 63...Rxb4 64.Qg8 { Score: 11,46 depth: 13 Qg8 Rc7 g6 Rh4 h7 d5
h8Q Rxh8 Qxh8 Rc6 Qh7 Kc5 g7 Rc7 Qc2+ Kd6 Qxc7+ Kxc7 } 64...Rc7 65.g6 { Score:
11,74 depth: 12 g6 Rh4 h7 d5 Qb8+ Kc6 h8Q Rxh8 Qxh8 Kd6 g7 Rxg7+ Qxg7 e4
Qf6+ Kc5 f4 exf3ep+ Kxf3 } 65...Rg4+ 66.Kf3 { Score: 12,18 depth: 13 Kf3 Rg5
h7 Rh5 h8Q Rxh8 Qxh8 Kb7 g7 Rc8 Ke4 Rxh8 gxh8Q Kc7 Qe8 Kb6 Kf5 } 66...Rg1
67.h7 { Score: 13,94 depth: 13 h7 } 67...Rh1 68.h8Q { Score: 13,56 depth:
13 h8Q Rxh8 Qxh8 Kb7 g7 Rc8 Qxc8+ Kxc8 g8Q+ Kd7 Ke4 Kc6 Qe6 Kc7 Kd5 Kb7 Qd7+
Ka8 Qxd6 } 68...Rxh8 69.Qxh8 { Score: 17,94 depth: 13 Qxh8 } 69...d5 70.Qxe5 {
Score: 19,94 depth: 12 Qxe5 Kc6 g7 Rf7+ Ke2 Rxg7 Qxg7 Kd6 Qf6+ Kc5 f4 Kb5
Qd6 Kc4 } 70...Kc6 71.g7 { Score: 21,26 depth: 11 g7 } 71...Rxg7 72.Qxg7 {
Score: 21,30 depth: 10 Qxg7 Kc5 Ke2 Kd6 f4 Ke6 Qe5+ Kf7 Qxd5+ Kf6 Qe5+ Kf7
f5 } 72...Kd6 73.e4 { Score: 25,22 depth: 11 e4 } 73...Kc5 74.Qc7+ { Score:
Mate in 6 depth: 11 Qc7+ Kb4 exd5 Kb3 d6 Kb4 d7 Ka4 d8Q Ka3 Qb7 Ka4 Qda8# }
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comment:
move 22.b3 and GT says +1.16 !!!!!! uff.
takes junior quite a while to see that WHITE is better here.
after 2'47" junior says +0.04 on a 1000 Mhz machine !!!
speculative score substituts search-depth.
if you KNOW that Ng5 and Qg4-h5 are attackers you don't have to compute
a real main-line.
in this position dump-searchers are blind.
thats 1 pawn difference .
white has 1 pawn less. junior says:
i am 1 pawn better but position is nearly 1 pawn weaker so overall
it is 0.17 for white.
that also tells us GT gives at least 2 pawns here for the attack-chances.
move 25. GT says +1.40 for white.
opponent says -0.41. again 1 pawn difference in scoring.
between 25-30: GT increases attack potential.
move 30. Nf6+ !!
even after gxf opponent says +0.94 for black, or ?
shows that tiger comes very deep in tactics. this together with the speculative
evaluation makes it very difficult for the opponent to handle GT.
in the next moves opponent has positive score for black. this drops suddenly.
Look how late it drops !!!
fail low in move 34... from +1.53 to +0.08
and the first idea about MINUS in move 37!!!
in all the time GT has positive score !
this attack could have been played by a strong human too. looks not typical
computerchess
IMO.
After 42.Rxe7 GT says +3.24 ! Junior says +1.48 and opponent said -1.13 !
I think that Nxf6 is not really accurate, cause after
35...e4 (opponents Nbd5 is IMO not so good) 36.Qh4 Ng6
37.Rxh7 Nxh4 38.gxh4 Qe7 39.Rxe7 Kxe7 40.Bg8 i cannot see how white will
win this.
Nf6 is a typical bluff move. it pushes the problem over the horizont.
a horizont problem. this time a positive.
+ thats the way the new paradigm programs win.
they see a win or a good move. Nf6.
they play it.
like a human beeing directed by ideas and illusions.
creative thinking. there is never really an accurate way to win life !
but by doing something and having the initiative you often increase
the chances to win. but - it is risky. if GT would have played
Nf6 against (say) GOD Nf6 would only have been a nearly forced draw.
but the bean counters on the other side of the board are not god.
they have horizont problems too and this is the reason GT wins although
it plays smashing inaccurate sacs.
whatever. the games are impressing IMO.
If you have a program that plays accurate, it would e.g. not have played
Nf6 and other moves, and it would maybe not risk anything.
it would not risk something because it has computed that this risk is not
working.
you get a genius-program. plays boring , but accurate. never doing anything.
waiting for a mistake of the opponent.
this is one reason i do believe bob hyatt is wrong. he believes if crafty
is accurate it would play better chess. i don't think so.
crafty would not do anything. like a human beeing sitting in his chair,
completely
autistic because he had considered anything in forward and have found out that
life
is dangerous and therefore better not move ONE step forward-.
cause driving in the car is dangerous.
better NOT drive. and eating is dangerous. could be poisened. and sleeping is
dangerous, because you have eyes closed. everything is dangerous. so better
doing nothing.
and thats what crafty is mainly doing. accurate doing nothing.
if crafty would be a human beeing, you would call him ill.
catatonic. paranoid. autistic. or call it whatever. but not beeing normal.
to live and to love means: to risk and to forget about risks.
this is what GT does.
it is not interested in accurate moves.
this is why i call GT and CSTal new paradigm.
they don't try to play accurate GOD-alike chess. they bluff.
ok - i am too euphorical today.
sorry.
till later.
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