Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: CM8000 opening book creation

Author: John Merlino

Date: 14:25:18 12/03/00

Go up one level in this thread


On December 03, 2000 at 16:04:45, David Dahlem wrote:

>
>On December 03, 2000 at 14:55:01, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On December 03, 2000 at 11:23:19, David Dahlem wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>On December 02, 2000 at 21:09:58, John Merlino wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 02, 2000 at 18:23:02, David Dahlem wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I have been trying to create an opening book by importing a pgn file. Every
>>>>>attempt has resulted in this message - "import error: an error occurred
>>>>>importing the pgn file". Has anyone else tried to import pgn files into an
>>>>>opening book in CM8000? Does the pgn file have to be free of commentary and/or
>>>>>variations?
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>If you think the PGN file is completely free of errors, then E-mail me the file
>>>>and I'll pass it on to the development team. Does the error message give you any
>>>>indication of WHERE in the file the error occurred, or WHAT the error is?
>>>>
>>>>jm
>>>
>>>I decided to try a little test. I thought maybe the problem was with the size of
>>>the pgn file so i created some with only 100 games. These were imported without
>>>an error message. Then i tried a pgn file with 500 games and got the error
>>>message. So it appears the problem with CM8000 importing pgn files into the
>>>opening book is with file size. Unless someone wanted to take a large amount of
>>>time splitting a large pgn file into very small ones, the import pgn into CM8000
>>>opening book is worthless, unless this is addressed in the patch.
>>>
>>>Dave
>>
>>It is possible that the number of games is the problem, but I know for a fact
>>that I have used it to import PGN files with more than 3,000 games. However, the
>>one factor is HOW MANY DIFFERENT OPENINGS are in the PGN file. The more
>>disparate the openings, the bigger the opening book will be, and the opening
>>book format can only handle a certain number of moves. Since the default depth
>>is either 30 or 40 plies (can't remember), this could cause a problem. In other
>>words, you can import more games if the games all use the same family of
>>openings.
>>
>>jm
>
>Not exactly sure what you mean by "same family of openings" but unless a book
>covers all openings, wouldn't it have "holes" in it?
>
>Dave

You are correct. The problem, I imagine, is that the opening book importer
pretty much goes 30 (or 40) plies deep for ALL lines that are found, even if a
line is found only once. This adds up very quickly. When I say "same family of
openings", I mean Sicilian, Queen's Gambit Declined, etc.

However, you should probably e-mail me the file (the one with 500 games) that
you are having problems with, so the development team can have a look at it.
There could very well be a bug, and having data that can reproduce it is vital.

jm



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.