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Subject: Re: Fine 70 hashing litmus test (was Re: Rehashing)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:17:44 01/23/98

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On January 23, 1998 at 15:00:17, Johanes Suhardjo wrote:

>On January 23, 1998 at 13:01:15, Stuart Cracraft wrote:
>
>>On January 23, 1998 at 03:04:43, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>
>>My litmus test for hashing has always been that if Fine 70 gets Kb1 in a
>>second or so, you're probably OK, but if you stall out at around ply 18,
>> you have something horrible going wrong.  Fine 70:
>>
>>8/k/3p/p2P1p/P2P1P/16/K w - - 0 1
>>
>>The key is Kb1 and you should see a score jump of around a pawn at some
>>point, and if you get a PV you should eventually see a "Kxf5" in it
>>somewhere.
>>
>>Okay, here is my output. Kb1 is found in a second. No stall at ply 18.
>>Kxf5 appears at ply 19 and persists for a few plys but is not around at
>>the higher plys (28, 29...)
>
>
>Is there a minimum hash table size in order to pass this litmus test?
>I tried my program (2^17 hash entries) and it got stuck at Kb3.  I felt
>horrible.  Curious, I tried gnuchess-4.75 (default hash size) and it
>also
>stuck at Kb3.  Then I tried crafty-11.13 and crafty-14.4, same results.
>This is the output of crafty-14.4 after 35 plies:
>
>               35->   4:13   3.20   Kb3 Ka6 Kc2 Kb6 Kd2 Kc7 Kd3 Kb6 Ke3
>                                    Kc7 Kf3 Kd7 Kg3 Ke7 Kh4 Kf6 Kh5 Kf7
>                                    Kg5 Kg7 Kxf5 Kf7 Kg5 Kg7 f5 Kf7 f6
>                                    Kf8 Kf4 Ke8 Kg4 Kf8 Kg5 Ke8 Kg6 <HT>
>
>
>                         Johanes Suhardjo (johanes@farida.cc.nd.edu)
>--
>Brook's Law:
>        Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later


you have the position wrong.  The white king is at a1, so Kb3 is
impossible

here is the FEN again:

/k/3p/p2P1p/P2P1P///K/ w



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