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Subject: Re: ECM errata (301 thru 400)

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 17:38:52 01/27/98

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On January 27, 1998 at 17:34:30, Amir Ban wrote:

>
>On January 27, 1998 at 12:45:49, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>You managed to put in here a lot of processor time in just a few hours.
>Great.

I ran out of ideas to test, so I've been messing with ECM.  In a couple
of days I'll have a whole bunch more information, meanwhile, I'll try to
respond to what you do.

I had already run some of these for a long time, but the run isn't
finished yet.

>>On January 27, 1998 at 11:53:23, Amir Ban wrote:
>>
>>>No. 321 (Rd5):
>>>
>>>I play here Nd5 instead, but don't see a plus score. Black mustn't take
>>>on d5, but after Rd5 Qc7 I don't see a continuation.
>>>
>>>Recommend: Discard.
>>
>>I ran this for an hour and have Nd5, +2.
>>
>
>Ok. Unless you have a clear line for Nd5 we should discard it.

Nd5 resolves as +1 in well under 20 seconds, so if Nd5 *is* the right
answer, this one is too easy anyway.  The lines I get involve black
taking the N and then giving back a B a few moves later, then losing a
pawn or an exchange or both.  I don't know what happens if black doesn't
take the knight.

>>>No. 336 (Rxd4):
>>>
>>>I find Bxe5! as a free gain of a pawn. I don't know what the point of
>>>Rxd4 is.
>>>
>>>Recommend: Change key to Bxe5.
>>
>>Rxd4 is illegal.
>>
>>r1bqr1k1/pp3pp1/2p4p/3PN1n1/3P1b2/2NB4/PPQ2PPP/3R1RK1 b - - 0 1
>>
>>I have Rxe5 (the key in my version of the file) at 21 seconds, +2.
>>
>
>Mistake. Change that to 335 and retry.

I get Bxe5 after an hour, +2, which is about where it starts out when
first found.

>>>No. 354 (Qxf3):
>>>
>>>This one's unclear. 1...Qxf3 2.Nxf3 Rxh3+ 3.Kg1 Rxf3 is a nice position
>>>for black but I don't see a decisive line. This may be meant as a
>>>positional sacrifice. It doesn't look inferior to any other possibility,
>>>which may be a basis for accepting it.
>>>
>>>Recommend: Investigate.
>>
>>I have this as a draw score after 20 seconds, but didn't look further
>>yet since I find the key move.
>>
>
>It's reasonable to find it, but where's the win ?

Haven't looked.

>>>No. 366 (Rxd8):
>>>
>>>I think this one's wrong. 1.Rxd8 Qxd8 2.Qh4 Kg8 3.Rxf6 white gets two
>>>minor pieces for a rook, but will be sorry he did after 3...Qb6 which
>>>gives black a strong counterattack.
>>>
>>>Recommend: Discard.
>>
>>Found in 38 minutes with a score of +0.5.
>>
>
>What line ? I mistrust this one even if you found it due to line I
>posted above.

Yes, I'd like to see the ECM line for this one.

bruce



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