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Subject: Re: Nolot 5 Solved

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 14:42:24 01/08/01

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On January 08, 2001 at 12:00:52, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On January 08, 2001 at 00:52:04, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>
>>On January 07, 2001 at 12:05:11, Joshua Lee wrote:
>>
>>>Qg6 is better and i had already mention analizing in reverse ...at 23Qg6 is
>>>prefered over Qg4 at 16Ply so if i wanted to leave my computer running for 52
>>>more hours it would've surely found Qg6 in the pv.
>>>
>>>
>>>you can try it but i answered your question already so i hope this helps you.
>>>Let me clear this up i let it sit for 26 hours fritz went to 19/50 ply it
>>>would've taken atleast 1 more ply to find Qg6 maybe 2 but no more as at move 23
>>>it takes 16ply to find Qg6 , upto 15ply Qg4 is prefered ..... Qg6 is better
>>
>>If it takes 19 ply to find that one move is really the best move (e5 better than
>>Nf3, for example), then it might take 19 ply to find out that Qg4 is better than
>>Qg6, or it could be that you're right and Qg6 is really better.  I'm not totally
>>convinced that a simple computer search from that position can tell us the right
>>answer, because both moves are probably winning, and it's obviously very deep.
>
>The whole idea is to mate black, and black of course can prevent
>that for quite a time with moves like Nh5.
>
>I get quite a good score for e5 real quick, but at bigger depths
>DIEP starts to get real happy about Nce2 and e5 one move later, which
>more or less is in some variations simply transposition, but score
>goes up from minus score to 0.80 nearly for Nce2 after some time,
>as that basically is doing the same as e5 the next move i don't see
>the difference quite clear, but sure direct e5 is more forcing though
>also taking more risk.
>
>Vincent

e5 just flat out wins tactically.

bruce




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