Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: negative extensions

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 16:05:12 01/25/01

Go up one level in this thread


On January 25, 2001 at 12:49:58, Edward Screven wrote:

>On January 25, 2001 at 09:34:05, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On January 25, 2001 at 08:20:26, David Rasmussen wrote:
>>>I mean, maybe many of the "unsound" pruning methods would be sounder if, instead
>>>of just pruning, they just adjusted the resulting depth down. In that way, a
>>>line would still be examined, only later.
>>
>>
>>This is what null-move search does, in essence...
>
>we must think about the null move heuristic differently, because i
>don't think its typical implementation is at all similar to what
>david suggested.
>
>sure, there is a reduced depth search involved, but it's part
>of the pruning test, not the pruning action.  the pruning action
>is all or none -- completely prune the move from the parent node
>or search it in full.

Think about it differently.  IE at ply=N, I play a move and I am
about to do a normal search to depth=X to see how this move works.
But first, I assume my opponent does nothing, and I then do a much
shallower search with me to move again.  If this is bad for me, there
is no need for me to search this move to the full depth, I can get away
with searching it to the shallower depth, proven by the null-move observation...



>
>applying david's suggestion to a null move implementation would
>mean reducing the search depth after a null move failed high
>instead of simply returning immediately with a fail high.
>
>  - edward



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.