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Subject: Re: negative extensions: underpromotions

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 09:03:53 01/26/01

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On January 26, 2001 at 05:32:26, Steffen Jakob wrote:

>On January 25, 2001 at 14:11:36, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>
>>On January 25, 2001 at 08:20:26, David Rasmussen wrote:
>>
>>>Howdy.
>>>
>>>Inspired by the thread on extensions, I was wondering whether the idea of
>>>negative extensions or reductions could be a good one.
>>>
>>>I mean, maybe many of the "unsound" pruning methods would be sounder if, instead
>>>of just pruning, they just adjusted the resulting depth down. In that way, a
>>>line would still be examined, only later.
>>
>>Hi, in the past I have thought of negative extensions too although I haven't
>>tried implementing them yet.  I wouldn't consider nullmove to be a negative
>>extension, its not really in the spirit of an extension - I'd just call it a
>>pruning method.
>>
>>In my mind, extensions are usually a move based thing.  By this I mean that we
>>can see some property of the move we have just played (or are just about to
>>play, depending on exactly how you implement the extension) which indicates that
>>we should extend.  Obvious examples are
>>- check extension
>>- recapture extension
>>- single response extension
>>- passed pawn push extension
>>
>>So the question is, what sort of moves could be candidates for a negative
>>extension?
>
>Some underpromotions.
>
>Greetings,
>Steffen.



I seem to remember that you have suggested this some months ago.

I have tried and found that it was doing exactly nothing to the playing
strength. So the idea does not look bad, but it does not help at all.



     Christophe



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