Author: Uri Blass
Date: 10:47:58 01/26/01
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On January 26, 2001 at 13:21:16, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >On January 26, 2001 at 11:10:20, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On January 26, 2001 at 09:18:01, David Wilke wrote: >> >>>On January 26, 2001 at 01:08:38, Jouni Uski wrote: >>> >>>>On January 26, 2001 at 01:04:18, John Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>>My chess tiger 12, 13, Gambit Tiger, as well as Nimzo 732, Hiarcs 732 and Fritz6 >>>>>don't see Bg3. They all picked Kg2. My computer setup is Celeron 566@860mhz, >>>>>128mb ram. The Tiggers have 48mb hash; Chessbase programs 64mb hash. Time >>>>>control for all programs to find the solution was 60minutes; the tiggers took >>>>>approximately 3 minutes to get Kg2 and the chessbase slightly less. >>>>> >>>> >>>>Hiarcs and Nimzo should solve this with Nalimov 4 pieces! You have installation >>>>problem! >>>> >>>>Jouni >>> >>>I agree.. >>> >>>I tried Hiarcs 7.32, Deep Fritz, Junior 5/6, Gandalf, Crafty, Comet, Nimzo >>>7.32/8, Chessmaster 6000/7000 and ALL see Bg3 within seconds using 3 + 4 + KRPKR >>>tablebases... >> >>Hiarcs7.32 or Crafty have no problem to see Bg3 but Deep Fritz cannot see it and >>it simply does not use tablebases inspite of the fact that it has all the 4 >>piece tablebases and has also KRP vs KR and some 5 piece tablebases. >> >>This is on a PIII450 256 meg ram windows98. >> >>The programs have 128 mbytes hash and I did not check the number of mbytes for >>cache but it should not be a problem because Hiarcs and Crafty do not have the >>problem. >> >>Uri > >Same setup, W98 and 128MB hash, P750: > >New position >8/k7/8/2R5/8/4q3/8/4B2K w - - 0 1 > >Analysis by DEEP FRITZ : > >1.Bc3-- > -+ (-3.22) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00 >1.Bc3-- Qxc5 > -+ (-5.97) Depth: 1/6 00:00:00 >1.Bf2! > -+ (-5.12) Depth: 1/6 00:00:00 >1.Bf2! Qxf2 > -+ (-4.31) Depth: 1/6 00:00:00 >1.Bb4! > -+ (-4.25) Depth: 1/6 00:00:00 >1.Rc7+! > -+ (-4.06) Depth: 1/6 00:00:00 >1.Rc7+! Kb6 > -+ (-1.56) Depth: 1/6 00:00:00 >1.Rc7+-- > -+ (-1.87) Depth: 2/5 00:00:00 >1.Rc7+-- Kb6 2.Rf7 Qxe1+ 3.Kg2 > -+ (-4.31) Depth: 2/9 00:00:00 >1.Ra5+! > -+ (-2.59) Depth: 2/9 00:00:00 >1.Ra5+! Kb6 2.Ra1 > -+ (-1.69) Depth: 2/9 00:00:00 >1.Ra5+-- > -+ (-2.00) Depth: 3/10 00:00:00 >1.Ra5+-- Kb6 2.Kg2 Qxe1 > -+ (-4.31) Depth: 3/11 00:00:00 1kN >1.Bb4! > -+ (-4.28) Depth: 3/11 00:00:00 1kN >1.Bb4! Qe4+ > -+ (-4.25) Depth: 3/11 00:00:00 1kN >1.Bb4 Qe4+ 2.Kh2 Qxb4 3.Rc8 > -+ (-4.22) Depth: 4/13 00:00:00 3kN >1.Kg2! > -+ (-4.19) Depth: 4/13 00:00:00 5kN, tb=2 >1.Kg2-- > -+ (-#29) Depth: 5/5 00:00:00 5kN, tb=3 >1.Kg2-- Qxe1 > -+ (-#29) Depth: 5/5 00:00:00 5kN, tb=3 >1.Bg3! Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 5/5 00:00:00 5kN, tb=21 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 6/6 00:00:00 5kN, tb=26 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 7/7 00:00:00 5kN, tb=49 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 8/8 00:00:00 5kN, tb=72 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 9/9 00:00:00 5kN, tb=95 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 10/10 00:00:00 5kN, tb=118 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 11/11 00:00:00 5kN, tb=141 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 12/12 00:00:00 5kN, tb=164 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 13/13 00:00:00 5kN, tb=187 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 14/14 00:00:00 5kN, tb=210 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 15/15 00:00:00 5kN, tb=233 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 16/16 00:00:00 5kN, tb=256 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 17/17 00:00:00 5kN, tb=279 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 18/18 00:00:00 5kN, tb=302 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 19/19 00:00:00 5kN, tb=325 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 20/20 00:00:00 5kN, tb=348 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 21/21 00:00:00 5kN, tb=371 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 22/22 00:00:00 5kN, tb=394 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 23/23 00:00:00 5kN, tb=417 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 24/24 00:00:00 5kN, tb=440 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 25/25 00:00:00 6kN, tb=463 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 26/26 00:00:00 6kN, tb=486 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 27/27 00:00:00 6kN, tb=509 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 28/28 00:00:00 6kN, tb=532 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 29/29 00:00:00 6kN, tb=555 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 30/30 00:00:00 6kN, tb=578 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 31/31 00:00:00 6kN, tb=601 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 32/32 00:00:00 6kN, tb=624 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 33/33 00:00:00 6kN, tb=647 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 34/34 00:00:00 6kN, tb=670 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 35/35 00:00:00 6kN, tb=693 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 36/36 00:00:00 6kN, tb=716 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 37/37 00:00:00 6kN, tb=739 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 38/38 00:00:00 6kN, tb=762 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 39/39 00:00:00 6kN, tb=785 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 40/40 00:00:00 6kN, tb=808 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 41/41 00:00:00 6kN, tb=831 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 42/42 00:00:00 6kN, tb=854 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 43/43 00:00:00 6kN, tb=877 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 44/44 00:00:00 6kN, tb=900 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 45/45 00:00:00 6kN, tb=923 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 46/46 00:00:00 6kN, tb=946 >1.Bg3 Qxc5 > = (0.00) Depth: 47/47 00:00:00 6kN, tb=969 > >(Irazoqui, Cadaqués 26.01.2001) I do not understand it because my Deep Fritz does not see it. I tried it only under hiarcs7.32 interface and maybe it is the reason. I did not try it under Deep Fritz interface and my gandalf(under hiarcs7.32) is now busy in a position from my correspondence games and I prefer not to stop it(I may try to use both Hiarcs7.32 and deep Fritz on the same time on different interface but I prefer not to do it because I am afraid to have other problems like doing Gandalf slower or losing information) Uri
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